2008 Australian GP - Race 1/18

NathanE said:
Steedie what does the Microsoft Visual Studio icon in the bottom-right of your signature mean? :p
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Is that one of those self answering questions? :p

Hehe nah just looks a lot less geeky than putting lines of code in there, do a lot of programming you see :)
 
sunama said:
Only done go-kart racing, but not seriously.



Yep.

And he seemed to be successfully keeping behind Alonso and Heiki, which is no mean feat when you compare the Toro Rosso with the other 2 cars.

Bourdais does seem to have quite a bit of experience behind him though. He has shown pace wherever he has raced. A bit too early to tell at this point though.
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The STR is last years Red Bull which was actually getting pretty quick towards the end of last season (plus they have plenty of info on how to set it up) and is powered by the Ferrari donk so certainly isn't the worst engine on the grid.
 
DC can come out with some crackers sometimes...

I love the radio conversation DC had in Canada last year I think where he was asked "How's the car?" to which DC replied with "Its not good. It doesn't turn, it doesn't stop, no traction. Apart from that, its great, having lots of fun!"
 
Alibaba99 said:
The STR is last years Red Bull which was actually getting pretty quick towards the end of last season (plus they have plenty of info on how to set it up) and is powered by the Ferrari donk so certainly isn't the worst engine on the grid.
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Powerful yes, but it might actually be the most unreliable engine on the grid.

Massa, Kimi and Bourdais all suffered engine failures.
The 4th Ferrari engine on the track (vettel) had an accident so didnt get far enough into the race to test the engine's reliability, otherwise the odds are that his engine would've also failed.

Not looking good for Ferrari.

With regards engines: are the engines being used in 2008, identical to those used in 2007? What date the engine devlopment freeze come into being?
 
tonyyeb said:
Same engines as last year.

I thought I read that Kimi ran out of fuel ;)
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Kimi's engine died.

Thats what it says on the formula 1 website.
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2008/787/

If, the engine is identical to that which was used last year, what could've made Ferrari's engine so unreliable where 75% of the engines used in today's race died? Last year's Ferrari engine was reliable. It doesnt make any sense to me.
 
sunama said:
If, the engine is identical to that which was used last year, what could've made Ferrari's engine so unreliable where 75% of the engines used in today's race died? Last year's Ferrari engine was reliable. It doesnt make any sense to me.
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Neither does your statement. Do you mean 75% didn't die?
 
sunama said:
If, the engine is identical to that which was used last year, what could've made Ferrari's engine so unreliable where 75% of the engines used in today's race died? Last year's Ferrari engine was reliable. It doesnt make any sense to me.
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Maybe didnt like the heat? Maybe the car wasnt setup correctly or they were pushing it to hard? Could also be a bad batch! Only time will tell :)
 
I swear, some of you lot are very easily pleased if you reckon that was a great race.

The NASCAR Cup race at Bristol is on right now. Side by side battling amongst the leaders, and plenty of actual racing action all the way down the field. The F1 today, where were the serious overtaking moves? Kimi on Rubens eventually with that rather handy stab up the inside. His Almighty Petulance™ versus Heikki near the end. And that's about it. The action was mainly provided by people stacking it - which ironically is the accusation normally levelled at NASCAR.

Seriously - Kim came out of the first safety car period in 8th having gotten by people in the chaos....and then nothing happened for ages aside from Piquet Jr going backwards. Where was the action up front? It's all well and good pointing to mid-field action.....but when the points positions are only changed by pitstops, unreliability and brainfade rather than actual racing you have to wonder if maybe it's time to take a good long look at the rulebook. The crashing and dicking about might have made for a better show than last year I'll grant you....but that wouldn't take much to beat. I had to watch the Aussie broadcast about a week later to get some enjoyment out of that race beyond the Ferrari win (Murray was commentating for Aussie TV, managing to be complimentary about The Messiah™ without going over the top like ITV were). Christ, if the safety car hadn't come out at all today just how far ahead d'you reckon The Messiah™ would have been? I'm willing to bet it would have been a gargantuan lead.

Another random thought cropped up - Kimi spent all that time following Rubens, then some time following Heikki. I wonder what that did for airflow into his radiators? Possibly exacerbated reliability issues that were already marginal?

I can't wait for the F1 Rejects race review and podcast. Ferrari have to be Rejects Of The Race, by far. Here's to hoping some racing actually happens at Sepang rather than a demolition derby like today.
 
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