Mondeo ST 220 / ST TDCI
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That sounds a lot for the Audi, I bought this for £5300 today. For 10k surely you could find a decent A4?
You did very well - surely its less than mint for that money?
One alloy has bubbled a little and apparently there is an intermittent noise from the air con which I havnt heard yet. Other than that its spot on as far as I can tell. Service history is spot on and paintwork is immaculate.
Chuffed with it.
Chuffed with it.
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[TW]Fox;11321877 said:
quoted for the truth!
The best car by a country mile is the 330D and it hasn't even got a mention 
Otherwise buy the TDCI and buy a spare set of injectors, a spare mechanic to fit them and gas masks for all the people who have to breathe in the sooty emissions.
Otherwise buy the TDCI and buy a spare set of injectors, a spare mechanic to fit them and gas masks for all the people who have to breathe in the sooty emissions.
The best car by a country mile is the 330D and it hasn't even got a mention
For £8-9k I wouldnt buy a 330d.
To me the ST220 and ST TDCi are too different to 'compare'.. the TDCI is so noticeably slow in comparison, even remapped it's not going to come close to setting the world on fire.. 180BHP in a Mondeo is not going to give much of a thrill.. ..
And where as I don't agree normally with fox on the Petrol/ Diesel debate, the fact that you can get an older ST220 then TDCi for much less cash would sway it for me as well..
And where as I don't agree normally with fox on the Petrol/ Diesel debate, the fact that you can get an older ST220 then TDCi for much less cash would sway it for me as well..
[TW]Fox;11322166 said:
For £10k, I would.
He's unlikely to be driving intergalatic mileages (otherwise he wouldn't be considering buying a gas guzzling Mondeo V6), so he could pick up a really good condition private 80k-90k 330d for that sort of money. You tend to get quite affluent people owning these cars from new who tend to look after them. The mileage will even out over the next few years, and it will still be worth more than that Mondeo as well as being more luxurious and better to drive. Unless of course he wants a hatchback...
The best car by a country mile is the 330D and it hasn't even got a mention
Otherwise buy the TDCI and buy a spare set of injectors, a spare mechanic to fit them and gas masks for all the people who have to breathe in the sooty emissions.
just dont like beemers, sorry.
This applies equally to ST TDCi's. Now, I'm not suggesting a 330d but I'd prefer a high motorway mileage car over an average typical mileage car as they'll be a load cheaper and probably in better condition.
What it means is that with similar driving the diesel goes some 70% further on the same fuel. Whether you'll actually see the 46 or 27 is dependent on lots of factors - but the 70% difference is pretty reliable.
Aye the earlier 5 speeder had clutch and flywheel reliability issues, you could pick up a nice 2004 for 8k if you look hard enough. Just may have to travel. It is definitely worth it thats for sure though.
[TW]Fox;11322330 said:
Nothing....well, nothing apart from noticeably better fuel economy, cheaper insurance, cheaper road tax and vastly better residuals. As for turbocharger failures, you're getting confused with early 320d models. The 330d doesn't have that problem. Certainly not the later revisions that you would get for £10k.
This a great car: http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-u...W&model=3+SERIES&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=
By that's all by the by. He wants a run of the mill souped up Ford which will depreciate like a brick, rather than German quality and precision engineering.
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The fuel economy isn't vastly better, it's circa 10mpg better in most situations. 'Vastly better residuals'? The gap will only close between them as they depreciate in value.
The 320d's have a big issue with swirlflap failiure, in addition to the regular turbo issues. I can assure you that the turbo CAN be an issue on the M57.
[TW]Fox;11324275 said:
The gap will widen, if anything. Big capacity 6cyl E46s will plummet in value the older they get, with further pressure on residuals being brought to bear by the increased road tax. 330i about 24/25mpg in mixed conditions. 330d about 35/36mpg in mixed conditions. That's more than a 40% improvement. That's a lot.
[TW]Fox;11324275 said:
320d without a doubt, particularly early versions of that engine. 330d not a significant problem on the later revisions of that engine. If you know different, perhaps you could point to some information showing a significant proportion of 330s failing?
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