18 Year old man rapes a 5 month old baby
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I agree, but on the other hand I also believe there is a reason for everything that happens in this world. Unless we understand the cause how do we go on to protect children in the future.
This guy needs punishment, but society also needs to think more progressivly if we want prevention.
Of course not, that owuld require you actually construct a decent and logical response. You let your personal issues cloud your judgement dfar too much, come accross as a bit of an angry and petty person if you don't mind me saying so.
I've already constructed a decent and logical response, but when faced with facetious wastes of time such as yourself
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I choose not to waste my time. I choose to debate with people like HEADRAT who actually communicate with me like a human, and don't sit in their little world assuming that they're better than everyone who has a different opinion to them.
In short, you see me as angry and petty (you know me so well, it's obviously easy for you to make these piquant character assassinations), whereas I'm actually passionnate and realistic.
"You let your personal issues cloud your judgement too much" - what does this mean? My personal "issues" (again, you know me so well, you must be well-versed in my personal issues) build and influence my judgement - they're what make that judgement mine. Stop talking down to me, and maybe I'll dignify you with a pertinent response, but would you talk to you if you were me? The reason I don't debate these issues with you is the same reason I wouldn't debate them with a mindless, drunken idiot screaming abuse at me across a street. What's the point?
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I don't feel that life is that simple, I think certain events are completely "random" and there is little chance for explanation. Unfortunately I don't think that there is any way we can protect our children from the random attacks of these monsters.
HEADRAT
Ahh yes... I draw your attention back to your earlier post in this thread...
What is that if not a complete patronising dismissal of someones opinion? Hypocrasy at its's finest, but don't let that stop you... not that it will.
Passion and anger go hand in hand, hence some of your knee-jerk posts.
This also from the same man who walked into a thread in the movies section flaming me, despite that i'd never really had any contact with you before? Again, look to your own behaviour before you criticise others. As for comparing me with a "screaming mindless drunken idiot" well yeah... lets pour on the melodrama shall we?
I think its more just a case of I really get under your skin, and you don't like that. That's cool though. Stick me on ignore if it's any easier for you, makes no odds to me.
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If this is random then how can you justify punishment? Random indicates that a suddern urge came out of nowhere, suerly in that case all of us could be capable of such an act. I'm sorry I don't buy that at all.
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That's revolting. Hope he gets what's coming to him in prison.
That's not really hypocrisy is it? That's not me talking down to people - that's me seeing people saying that this guy deserves to get the death penalty without really knowing anything other than what the guy did and expressing my opinion on the type of person that is. If the cap fits, wear it. At least learn what hypocrisy means before you start labelling people thus.
So do passion and love. So do anger and hate. So do hate and love. Is it all really the same thing? Does that make what you said redundant? Maybe.
I'd had plenty of altercations with you on the subject previously. The fact that you didn't form an opinion of me as a result of them, doesn't mean I didn't form an opinion of you. I watch a lot of people on this forum quite closely, and your name to me is synonymous with getting your body into shape and the fact that you think you're better than everyone else.
I think its more just a case of I really get under your skin, and you don't like that. That's cool though. Stick me on ignore if it's any easier for you.
you do get under my skin, but not for reasons that reflect well on you I promise, so there's no need to be so proud of it. I think you're obnoxious, facetious and (as I've said and thought countless times) a waste of time. The only reason I'm even continuing is because your pathetic observations on my posts are actually entertaining me right now. Seems a shame to pass that up when most of the time you just get on my nerves.
I don't have anyone on ignore, that's not the way I deal with my problems.
Agreed. If you were going down the route of saying "Anyone who does this is mentally ill and needs help, not the death penalty" then wouldn't that apply to pretty much everyone who's ever been on death row guilty of their crimes? Anyone guilty of pre-meditated murder, rape etc etc could be classed as "abnormal" or "mentally ill"... it's certainly not something anyone of truly sane mind would do. Seems to me the worse and more heinous the crime, the quicker people are to make excuses for them.
Fact eh? It's just your opinion lol... be realistic mate you're just some random bloke on an internet forum who happens to be a bit highly strung, I don't think im any "better" than you or anyone else at all... I just couldn't care less either way about your personal opinion of me, and likely never will. You're going so over the top with this. Breathe....
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But does random not point to the fact it was outside of his control? How can you justufy punishment for something you could not help?
Maybe I not understanding your definition of random?
Random is a myth as far as I am concerned, it only occurs when your unable to see the bigger picture.
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lock him away for life, end of. thats just sick as hell, as are all rapes.
A "random" crime doesn't mean that it's outside of a person control, it just they had an opportunity and they acted on it. For must have us our "moral compass" would mean that we would not act out such an act even if the opportunity presesnted itself.
I think by "random" he meant it was "spur of the moment" and not a calculated (ie: planned) act.
Now I understand what your saying, howevver it still stands that there is a reason why person A would commit the crime and person B would not.
My point was that to ignore this reason rather than investigate it is irrisponsible.
Fact eh? It's just your opinion lol... be realistic mate you're just some random bloke on an internet forum who happens to be a bit highly strung, I don't think im any "better" than you or anyone else at all... I just couldn't care less either way about your personal opinion of me, and likely never will. You're going so over the top with this. Breathe....
I only said it was a fact because you said "despite that i'd never relaly had any contact with you before".
If you don't think you're better than anyone else, you've got a really funny way of showing it. Most of your posts I've read are incredibly condescending and use this stupid rhetoric that you seem to be so proud of. The only things I've said about you are based on what I've read of you on here. Like you said, I'm just some random guy on a forum, that's all I have to go on.
I don't expect you to care about my personal opinion. Like I said right at the start of this thread to try and save both of us some time. Regardless of whether you think I'm justified, or if you think I'm overreacting, I don't like you. I'm totally calm about it (I'm not the one falling over keys, typoing really simple words) now and I've been totally calm about it from the start, you just seem to like trying to get my back up and you think it's working. Like I said, the only reason I'm even perpetuating this is because it's mildly entertaining (it's actually quite stagnant at this point, but that's not surprising to me). You'll note that most of the crap you come out with, I just leave.
Sure and I think you're right but I do think that while some behaviour can be chased back to cause/effect I think other behaviour is just unexplainable.
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Isn't it odd how people think people like this are worse than murderers. I've never understood that.
He's clearly a very sick and twisted individual and he needs to be kept from society but the baby will go on to live a normal life with no recollection of the event. Yet every day people murder other people - end their lives - some of it even gets posted on here, and it never ever gets the reaction the peado threads do.
I wonder why
He's clearly a very sick and twisted individual and he needs to be kept from society but the baby will go on to live a normal life with no recollection of the event. Yet every day people murder other people - end their lives - some of it even gets posted on here, and it never ever gets the reaction the peado threads do.
I wonder why
[TW]Fox;11327227 said:Isn't it odd how people think people like this are worse than murderers. I've never understood that.
He's clearly a very sick and twisted individual and he needs to be kept from society but the baby will go on to live a normal life with no recollection of the event. Yet every day people murder other people - end their lives - some of it even gets posted on here, and it never ever gets the reaction the peado threads do.
I wonder why
Not disagreeing with you, but I wonder if that is possible.
Think of the 'physical' attributes that were involved - in fact don't, doesn't bear thinking about
But, surely the little girl must be somehow physically damaged in some way? Not really something we should go into in great depth, but I just can't help but think that she'll have some kinda permanent damage 'down there'.