18 Year old man rapes a 5 month old baby

MookJong said:
Now I understand what your saying, howevver it still stands that there is a reason why person A would commit the crime and person B would not.

My point was that to ignore this reason rather than investigate it is irrisponsible.
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And what happens when it's been investigated... how do you stop this from happening again? Until we develop a Minority Report style of "pre-cog" policing there is no way to pro-actively counter this sort of thing. And if by some miracle you truly understood 'why' they did it then what would it mean for the person you studied, if there was no hope of "curing" it? I personally just think many people are pre-disposed towards this sort of mental illness... it's the whole "nature vs nurture" debate agian. You see people who commit awful crimes who come from supportive families and good communities... what do you do when you can't find any form of explanation then for why they did something? What if there just... isn't one, beyond what they felt like doing at the time for their own twisted pleasure?

[TW]Fox;11327227 said:
Isn't it odd how people think people like this are worse than murderers. I've never understood that.

He's clearly a very sick and twisted individual and he needs to be kept from society but the baby will go on to live a normal life with no recollection of the event. Yet every day people murder other people - end their lives - some of it even gets posted on here, and it never ever gets the reaction the peado threads do.

I wonder why :confused:
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It's becasue there are different levels of twistedness... to murder another man is obviously a terrible thing, but it skirts around a ton of moral barriers that would allow you to actually have sex with a baby. Think about it... what can a 5 month old baby do to you? It's not sexually active, or alluring. It can't think, or speak, or cause harm to you or your family or friends. It's sacrilege on a completely different level, beyond almost all comprehension. Tha's why it's so much worse.
 
badbob said:
I wonder if legalised prositition (of 18+ women) in a controlled envirovement would have prevented this..
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Probably not. Its not liek he was desperate to "get his end away" and a baby was the closest thing to hand... the guy is clearly mentally ill. Not that thats an excuse.
 
Richdog said:
It's becasue there are different levels of twistedness... to murder another man is obviously a terrible thing, but it skirts around a ton of moral barriers that would allow you to actually have sex with a baby. Think about it... what can a 5 month old baby do to you? It's not sexually active, or alluring. It can't think, or speak, or cause harm to you or your family or friends. It's sacrilege on a completely different level, beyond almost all comprehension. Tha's why it's so much worse.
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But death is it - the end game. Finished. End of. No more. Surely nothing can be worse than taking someone elses life? But no, we are quite content to just lock murderers up for a bit whilst we resume screaming for public hangings for peados.
 
String him up to the nearest tree by his scrotum (hung from the highest branch by piano wire) and when the inevitable happens douse him in a bath of vinegar. When this is finished with, give the family the choice of what they want done next, life imprisonment or death.

While I believe that no-one can be held responsible for thier sexual preference (you are what you are), those who have a predilection towards children know that it's a reprehensible act that society forbids because it is the harming of an innocent and not a compliant partner with knowledge of what they are being forced to do. These people are aware that what they are doing is wrong and as such, they hide their activities.

No amount of counselling will change the fact that they prefer children anymore than it would stop me from preferring women should heterosexual relationships be outlawed. The only thing we can do with sexual predators like this is to remove them from society either by imprisonment or death. I'm on the fence with those two choices as I would prefer imprisonment but I know if someone hurt my son I would opt for execution and I would do all I could to ensure it was me who pulled the trigger.
 
[TW]Fox;11327291 said:
But death is it - the end game. Finished. End of. No more. Surely nothing can be worse than taking someone elses life? But no, we are quite content to just lock murderers up for a bit whilst we resume screaming for public hangings for peados.
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Altough you make a very valid point Fox, i have to say murder is a common thing and can be justified in some cases.

But this is just sick and twisted. There is no need for it.
 
I think that most of use can think of situation where we might be able to kill another person but I certainly couldn't think of a any situation where I could attack a child in such a way.
 
If my dog bit my Grandson I'd shoot it in the head.
If my Brother did the above I'd shoot him in the head.
Neither would give me any pleasure no matter what they had done but I know inside it's the right thing to do.
Some people are just wired wrong & as soon as they identify themselves we should waste them. Wasting resources or compassion on them is a waste of time & money.
If the act was spontaneous you would release them of the Guilt they would have to live with, If they were just bad then Society is better of rid.
I know if i ended up one of those sick ***** I'd want someone to put a bullet in my head.
 
[TW]Fox;11327227 said:
Isn't it odd how people think people like this are worse than murderers. I've never understood that.

He's clearly a very sick and twisted individual and he needs to be kept from society but the baby will go on to live a normal life with no recollection of the event. Yet every day people murder other people - end their lives - some of it even gets posted on here, and it never ever gets the reaction the peado threads do.

I wonder why :confused:
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One of the charges is grievous bodily harm, so the child may well not go on to live without a reminder.

What I can't comprehend is how someone could perform such an act to an infant. I don't mean in a "ZOMG YOU PAEDO!!" kind of way, but it is human instinct to protect infants.
 
badbob said:
I wonder if legalised prositition (of 18+ women) in a controlled envirovement would have prevented this..
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I personally think not... though I would perhaps give that opinion some merit if it was a woman or at leat adult looking girl he had raped. But a baby... I don't think that can be classed in the same category of wanting sex with a normal human female and being frustrated at the lack of it. Besides which, I think if he was that desperate he could have found some cheap skanky hooker to blow off some stream with. I don't think this one can be explained with any remotely rational reasoning.

[TW]Fox;11327291 said:
But death is it - the end game. Finished. End of. No more. Surely nothing can be worse than taking someone elses life? But no, we are quite content to just lock murderers up for a bit whilst we resume screaming for public hangings for peados.
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Yup death is it... and I imagine it's a lot easier to dish out than raping a baby. Killing a man could be because he tried to kill you... because he did something to you that you deem worth of such measures... or simply because you like killing. I think the difference between murder and raping a baby is that the majority of the time I think many people feel some sense of justification for what they did, no matter how inane and ridiculous to us... whether it was revenge, anger etc etc. What such reasoning can there be for doing what this guy did? I think the big difference is also how we resolve such things in our own heads when we hear and think about it... death we can deal with as it's been part and parcel of life for as long as we've existed, our minds can process it without being horrified in each and every instance... I don't think they will ever get used to hearing about this sort of thing though.
 
Reading all the replies I can see most people's point of view.
I do hope to god that apart from the physical, it will not leave psychological scars on the child
 
Imagine trying ot keep this hidden form the child a they grow up, explaining any possible future sexual or genital problems they may have with random, made-up things all the hwile knowing the truth... I wouldn't like to have to do that for my kid. I think the chances of them not ever finding out are slim, and when they do find out I think it will be a real head-screwer.
 
Having a young daughter myself this makes me feel physically sick, I can't explain the rage and disgust i'm feeling right now..
 
Send all people like that to CSP - Colin's Special Prison... simple really, all them drugs you want testing but cant test on humans due to not knowing the results... or got somewhere dangerous you need a road building or mining out... got a project that needs people to be around as test subjects....

Come talk to CSP :)

At least then they have helped to serve human kind for a porpuse and arnt just ina cosy cell with 3 meals a day given to them... put them to work, but dangerous work...

ColiN
 
This is terrible

Sic said:
I don't believe in the death penalty, and I don't think this guy should be jailed - he should be in a maximum security institution so someone can determine what the hell made him do this? No normally functioning person would do anything like that to someone they're supposed to be caring for.
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i agree with sic (not the neanderthal part).

this guy need to be put in a max sercirity mental unit im not saying this guy need are help but until he understands what he did was wrong there can never really be any retribution. if they stick him in jail he'll just be put in solitary and live out the rest of his life probably never fully understanding the evil that he has done
 
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