18 Year old man rapes a 5 month old baby

Gog said:
I'm quite disturbed by some of the reactions to this, not only here but around the web in general.

From what I can ascertain the police have held, on remand, a 18 year old on suspicion of the crime. He hasn't been to trial, and the facts of the case aren't known. Yet everyone is quick to vilify him and call for execution/torture. Again, from what I can ascertain, it was this person in question who actually called for paramedics after he found the child choking.

There appears to be no doubt at this stage, that this child was abused in some way, as the injuries are described as having been caused by "trauma". I have no doubt that whomever perpetrated this act deserves to face the full penalty of the law, but I just can't get my head around the way that this "Scott Wade Smith" has been tried and sentenced by the genral public in the absence of any evidence.

I suppose it's because any crime against a child is whipped into a frenzy by the media. In fact some of the news stories posted on the web are embellishing the truth so much that it is hard to get to the known facts. For example one article cites Smith as having used a condom to disguise DNA evidence. In actual fact all that is known is that a used condom was found amongst Smith's belongings - there is nothing at this time to suggest that it was used by him, or on the infant.

I recognise that there may well be "no smoke without fire", but when emotions run as high as they do when children are involved in any crime, I think it is wise to sit back and review the facts before continuing the moral crusade.
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Ok then, if he is found to be guilty of the alledged crime against the child....

thepigf@rmer said:
Tie him to a post, douse him with petrol and set the **** on fire.
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Sic said:
Absolutely. I'd hate to be the one to have to do it - can you imagine trying to empathise with that guy?

I don't believe in the death penalty, and I don't think this guy should be jailed - he should be in a maximum security institution so someone can determine what the hell made him do this? No normally functioning person would do anything like that to someone they're supposed to be caring for.

I'm not surprised at the OcUK lynch mob, though. I never am.
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The only problem is what if it only takes 1-2 years to find out why he did it?

Do then let him go? put him in prison, what exactly?
 
didn't read whole thread, did anyone mention one of the linked stories about a guy who abused a girl from age 5-6 for 10 years. But he literally couldn't "do" her till she was much older, so he was just touching, and you would assume doing whatever weird stuff till she was quite a bit older when he did finally rape her, repeatedly. Thats truly ****ing nasty.

But it brings up a good point, physically can a you would assume at least mostly matured physically 18 yr old actually "do" a 5 year old. That begs a question, seems incredibly weird that they found evidence so easily, and that the child, by accounts was choking on something, this guy saved the kid and called for help. Blood on baby wipes found with a condom in a cupboard with a box of things that specifically identifies him? While i guess he could well have i dunno, a trophy case like you see in murder stories, someone taking a trophy and keeping it. Maybe some sicko did it and set up this guy and put a crayon in the kids mouth to make sure the guy who is under arrest was found with the injured baby as he would call for help to save the baby.

I dunno, it just all sounds weird, even if he did it, its just weird and insane.

Also it mentions child and trauma but it doesn't say where the kid was bleeding, its assume from the private parts, but might not have been.
 
The term "mentally ill" is thrown around all too often these days...

Sure, you can try to help some people. But with things like this, it's too late. You can't help this guy. He is beyond any help you could even think of giving.

In my opinion people like this have no place in society. But I don't see why the public should pay for their upkeep for the rest of their lives either. As suggested earlier in the thread they should be used for medical research, or just taken outside and shot.
 
Richdog said:
Well what can we say Sic... we can't all be bastions of moral superiority like your very good self. Would that we all were capable of displaying such piety and goodwill to all fellow men even when commit such heinous crimes as this... I feel truly humbled by your good words.

Or realistically, why should thousands and thousands be spent on correcting the behaviour of such an individual and keeping him incarcerated and "helped" when there may be no possibility whatsoever of his serious psychological issues ever being corrected? Do we perservere with him for 10 years, accept his word when he says he is now better, and release him only to see him to the same thing again... like so many sick paedos have done in the past? I'd rather put that money towards good causes to be honest, like helping support the family he has just destroyed, or others like them.

I support the death penalty in extreme case such as this, and as the worlds population continues to increase and the strain the criminal element put on society rises as a result I think it will become an increasingly viable way of controlling the vermin. That probably sounds harsh, but not as harsh as just findng out your baby has been raped. Most fathers worth their salt would kill or want to kill someone they found out had done that to their baby child, so why not support the death penalty and ensure it gets carried out legally?
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As a father of an infant:-
One way or another, he would die. painfully.

I don't give a **** if he can or can not be "rehabilitated" he just gave up ALL rights when this kind of sick twisted **** hapened. You have to draw the line somewhere, and this is way the **** over it.


The PC brigade can take a jump with their rehabilitation, therapy and other associated bull****, that is about as sick and twisted as it can get. there is no justification in the world for that. I don't care if the child has been screaming for 2 days solid. It can't help it. It's a defenceless child.
 
InSanCen said:
The PC brigade can take a jump with their rehabilitation, therapy and other associated bull****, that is about as sick and twisted as it can get. there is no justification in the world for that. I don't care if the child has been screaming for 2 days solid. It can't help it. It's a defenceless child.
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do you even know what the PC brigade is? Aside from an annoying term that's bandied about by people who don't actually know what it is
 
We are having system downtime issues so i read the whole thing.

It is just, unreal that something like that could possibly exist, ive emailed it to 2 people in my team and they are shocked. This is unbelievable, evidence left there at the scene, he is just thick, sick, unhuman, and will be a dead man when he arrives at jail.

I couldnt even imagine that story could be possible.
 
James07 said:
We are having system downtime issues so i read the whole thing.

It is just, unreal that something like that could possibly exist, ive emailed it to 2 people in my team and they are shocked. This is unbelievable, evidence left there at the scene, he is just thick, sick, unhuman, and will be a dead man when he arrives at jail.

I couldnt even imagine that story could be possible.
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as i brought up in my post, he saved the child apparently from choking to death. THe evidence seems HIGHLY suspicious to me, and the WHOLE house has had dna evidence taken. Not to mention as i said, theres a link to another story on the page to "similar stories" type links most sites have, theres a guy who tried to rape a 5 year old and physically just could not do it, think size and simple impossibility. THat guy abused the kid for a decade and starting having sex with her when she was older, that guy is beyond twisted. But as i said, that guy physically couldn't do anything with her when she was 5. Something about the story just says horrifically sick setup from someone, like a insane ex or something, i dunno. Something just says wrong to me.

For someone commiting a crime, to not throw away the evidence, but to go and put it in a box of personal stuff he's kept that clearly identifys him. Throw the book at him if he's guilty for sure, but wait till he's proved guilty. If he was setup, he's completely innocent AND saved the babys life and look what you are writing about him.


AS for the people saying screw the PC brigade let him fry, its sooo easy to be so tough behind a keyboard. Stick you infront of the guy with a knife and we'll see if you can do it.
 
That's absolutely, utterly, bloody disgusting. I am against the death penalty for numerous reasons, so I hope that he is put behind bars for the rest of his natural life with no chance of release if found guilty.
 
im against death penalty as well, as most would say thats benefiting them, they should have a huge dugout hole where they just leave them to die or paralyzing them for life but keeping them alive and awake 24/7 :)
 
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