Gym Rats: Nutirtion Thread

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How about we dedicate this thread to all things nutrition related. Whether it be asking for advice, simple tips or recipe secrets :)

I've seen a lot of people on here lately that either don't eat enough or simply don't eat right and then ask why they stay skinny :confused:

You want to be eating all sorts of foods so try not to stick to something plain, boring and repetitive (this in turn makes eating boring).
This is just a very rough outline - really depends on what your goals are to what exact type of food you should be eating :)
Protein, Diary, Fruit & Veg, Carbs all help in your quest for a better body and remaining healthy. However think of Protein as the king of foods :cool: (it builds the framework of your body, including muscles, organs, bones and connective tissues

Do not underestimate Fat - we all need it! Polyunsaturated (Omega-3's and 6's such as fish, flaxseed oil) & Monounsaturated (nuts, olives, peanuts, avocados) Fats = Good ---> as a note Shad, Sardines & Mackerel have the highest amount of Omega-3 content.
Saturated & Trans Fat = Bad! (avoid things such as margarine, fried foods, commercially manufactured baked goods etc)
Oh and as a side note if you ever read the contents label, try and stay away from 'High Fructose Corn Syrup' and 'partially hydrogenated oil'

Don't be afraid of Carbs - you can pick or choose if you want to eat them past 8pm ;) lol these are what energize your body.
Bread, pasta, potato's, brown rice etc are all high GL (glycemic load) carbs.

Calcium - Great for your bones but also helps fight the development of new Fat!! So get your servings of cheese, low-fat yoghurt's and low-fat milk etc.

If it's green = eat it! 5 servings a day of fruit & veggies! Think spinach, broccoli.

Also helps to add supplements to your daily food intake for that extra burst of nutrition - most people are huge fans of Whey powder as it is a great source of protein.

Drink plenty of liquid throughout the day, aim for water and milk (free protein right there!!).

Portions - this will all depend on what you want to achieve so we can leave that part up to you. However it's not a good idea to eat 3 HUGE meals a day. Try and eat every 2-3 hours throughout the day and get as much of the above in as possible.

Now on to some super foods :D
Protein: Chicken, lean red meat, turkey, fish.
Fat: almonds, olive oil, peanut butter.
Dairy: low-fat milk, low-fat yogurt, cheese & cottage cheese.
Instant Oatmeal - great for energy, carbs and fiber
Eggs - great all rounder - helps build muscle and burn fat.

Some snacks:
Wheat Bagel with fat free philidelphia (loaded with protein)
Baked potato with a can of tuna.
Grilled Chicken breast.
Yogurt mixed with nuts.

Now it's your turn to add some information - or correct all of the above :p
 
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You want the biggest kept secret in medicine and bodybuilding?

VITAMIN D

It really is a miracle vitamin, i get 8000% of my RDA daily, good for your bones, heart, brain, cancer stopping it does just about everything.
 
Maybe I could use this to clear up a couple of nutrition questions I have!

On a bulk I tend to eat a lot of (as well as the staples; chicken etc);

Cereals - Are these terrible? eg cheerios! (usually have this as a snack with full fat milk!)
Bacon - Yes I know it's fatty, but is it really THAT bad? (on wholemeal bread/pita, obviously! :D)

Also, I read that pizza is really bad so have almost totally cut it out, but, I can't get my head round why it's so bad. Take, for example, a 4 cheese pizza;

Cheese; yes fat, but lots of protein!
Tomato sauce; 1 of your 5 a day
Base; Decent carbohydrates if using wholemeal flour

What's so bad about that? Seems pretty rounded to me? Obviously this is a home made one, and store bought are going to be worse, but surely they're not THAT bad!?
 
You want the biggest kept secret in medicine and bodybuilding?

VITAMIN D

It really is a miracle vitamin
Good shout Killa! This is the kind of stuff which will be good for the thread.
Do you ever get that VitaminD milk? I would but it's loaded with sat. fat :(

Fus - If your bulking you can go two ways, clean or the wrong way :p whilst cereal might be a tasty snack try oatmeal instead (weight control is better as it has more protein). Regards to the pizza - they can be good if home made and done correctly. All depends on what you throw on top. Always read the labels of the products you use - that will give you a good indication.
 
You want the biggest kept secret in medicine and bodybuilding?

VITAMIN D

It really is a miracle vitamin, i get 8000% of my RDA daily, good for your bones, heart, brain, cancer stopping it does just about everything.
You do realise that it's actually very dangerous to go mad with Vitamin D, right? 8000% is toxic levels.
 
well 2000IU of vit D is considered the on the upper limit of safe. When you add in that a lot of people on this thread will be eating lots of mackarel salmon, tuna, taking cod liver oil etc which are all very high in vit D then I would go easy on it tbh. I would be quite surprised if anyone on a body builders diet is going to be low in vit D especially in summer when youre all walking about topless ;)

If you have ever seen someone with renal colic from a nasty old kidney stone then you may want to avoid too high vit D ( it is often considered one of THE most painful experiences in medicine)
 
Vitamin C is what you really want! It's basically impossible to overdose on and is great at doing all the things Killa_ken said about. Check out Wikipedia and the Vitamin C Foundation.
 
Vitamin C is what you really want! It's basically impossible to overdose on and is great at doing all the things Killa_ken said about. Check out Wikipedia and the Vitamin C Foundation.
Oh dear.. it's easy to OD on Vit C, it's not quite as dangerous as Vit D overdosing, but it will hinder your metabolism - something you do not want when building.
 
Like anything in life, too much can be a bad thing.

Too much vit c or d is not good for you.
 
Oh dear.. it's easy to OD on Vit C, it's not quite as dangerous as Vit D overdosing, but it will hinder your metabolism - something you do not want when building.
How do you know that? You're wrong. Ridiculous levels of Vitamin C don't build up, they just get flushed out of your system and may cause diarrhoea. Got a source?
 
there are plenty of sources, google is your friend. ok nothing major can occur directly, but continual squits is bad for you, as is stomach cramps. reduced metabolism is also a side effect, which is not good.
as always though in nutrition, you will find plenty of articles and cross articles stating the differing opinions, even ones from well known (and in some case nobel winning) scientists.
 
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Like anything in life, too much can be a bad thing.

Too much vit c or d is not good for you.

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The method of high dosing of Vitamin C (1-10 grams daily) is that you do it at a level below that which gives you diarrhoea. If you're used to higher doses then your tolerance for the diarrhoea goes up. I take 6 grams daily (3 x 2 gram doses).

The crux of the argument here is what is too much Vitamin C. The RDA of Vitamin C is woefully inadequate. If you're equating anything over that as too much then you're wrong. Obviously taking 100s of grams of Vitamin C a day is too much but what we were arguing about before is that it'd be harmful. I am not convinced it would but nevermind, let's carry on.

As I said, I take 6 grams a day and I don't see that to be too much and nor do a large number of respected scientists e.g. double Nozel Prize winning Linus Pauling as Morba eluded to.
 
I have 2g of Vitamin C on training days and 1g for the rest.

If I feel a cold coming on or I am actually ill, i'll generally have 3g-5g.
 
I have 2g of Vitamin C on training days and 1g for the rest.

If I feel a cold coming on or I am actually ill, i'll generally have 3g-5g.

I'm sure i read somewhere that there was a study done which showed that increased vit c (in tablet form) intake does not really help with colds.
 
It's probably just to do with the fact it's not really absorbed anywhere near as well as when it comes from natural sources, i've read it too :)
 
There have been studies either way, but the most useful meta-analysis (combining and statistically analysing many different trials) suggested that there is probably no use in high dose Vit C in preventing colds, but it may reduce the duration of symptoms when you develop one.

However it was something rather pathetic like 8% reduction in duration, which given the average length of a cold in most people doesn't equate to much in real life. I would rather soak up my 4 extra hours of a cold than risk even 1 episode of diarhhoea from taking too much, but thats just my opinion.
 
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