18 Year old man rapes a 5 month old baby

Your going a bit over the top, aren't you?.

Anyway, I've said what I felt I wanted to say in this thread and many agree with it.

I'm done here now, so Buh-Bye.

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Your going a bit over the top, aren't you?.

Anyway, I've said what I felt I wanted to say in this thread and many agree with it.

I'm done here now, so Buh-Bye.

/unsubscribes from thread notification
Why am I going over the top? I'm just looking at the situation logically instead of basing my view purely on emotion and knee-jerk reaction like you and your ilk are. My parents taught me to think before speaking.

Dare I say some of you are even just swinging your keyboards around like cavemen, it's sad really.

Buh bye. :)
 
I agree that rehabilitation is probably a waste on this guy, but prison? I don't agree with that at all. Moral argument aside, I keep saying it takes more money/effort to execute somebody than throw them in jail for the rest of their natural life.
They're already overcrowded with scum, I think we can cut back on the scum added to prison.
 
They're already overcrowded with scum, I think we can cut back on the scum added to prison.
I actually had an idea about this, lol...

If we divide the prison population up into three 16-hour "shifts" then we can have two thirds of them out of prisons and doing gruelling, hard labour (rapists/murderers) or community service (drug dealers, thieves, etc.) The other eight hours that the prisoners are in prison would be for sleeping, showering and eating.

Example: You have a prison with 6,000 inmates. During a 24 hour day only 2,000 of them will be physically inside the prison at any one time, the other 4,000 will be out doing something productive for the rest of us. :D

Not only would it give the illusion of a much smaller prison population, it'd cut down on the expenses involved in running a prison (electricity, water, etc.) I also think we should rip all TV's and stuff out of prisons, they should get a few books and board games at the most IMO.
 
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I actually had an idea about this, lol...

If we divide the prison population up into three 16-hour "shifts" then we can have two thirds of them out of prisons and doing gruelling, hard labour (rapists/murderers) or community service (drug dealers, thieves, etc.) The other eight hours that the prisoners are in prison would be for sleeping, showering and eating.

Example: You have a prison with 6,000 inmates. During a 24 hour day only 2,000 of them will be physically inside the prison at any one time, the other 4,000 will be out doing something productive for the rest of us. :D

You will probably find that using them for slave labour is undoubtedly against their human rights and hence forth illegal...

edit: not to mention unsillked labourers and builders would have a go at you, there probably wouldn't be that much work for them any way, and a machine could to the job easier and quicker, and you would also require numerous armed guards to control them, which would mean taking firearms teams off the streets or using the army.

You then the difficulty of feeding them while outside, treating the many injuries that would occur, you cannot make a man work for 16 hours and expect him to eat sleep drink and go to the toilet in the remaining 8 and remain healthy.
 
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Not a bad idea, you'd need to employ a few Poles to watch over them though. :p
LOL. :D

You will probably find that using them for slave labour is undoubtedly against their human rights and hence forth illegal...
While I'm a leftie and against the death penalty, I think this "human rights" stuff that people always come out with is taking it way over the top. Prison should be a really, really horrible thing where only their basic needs are attended to, such as: Food, shelter and health care.

Personally I think using them for slave labour is nothing but paying off their debt to society.
 
LOL. :D

While I'm a leftie and against the death penalty, I think this "human rights" stuff that people always come out with is taking it way over the top. Prison should be a really, really horrible thing where only their basic needs are attended to, such as: Food, shelter and health care.

Personally I think using them for slave labour is nothing but paying off their debt to society.

sorry I posted before finishing that, the rest is edited in.

But then what about the people who don't really deserve the hell on earth you wish to inflict upon them, such as that old woman who refused to pay her council tax after it nearly doubled but her pension remained the same, and she couldn't afford it?

Or someone who is in on a minor drug offence or something which equally harms no one but them selves?

Or the countless other cases in which such conditions would be either fatal, or horrendously difficult/painful due to age or medical reasons foreseen or unforeseen.
 
I didn't say there weren't issues with my plan, it was the result of a drunken conversation over pizza at one in the morning. :D Their labour need not necessarily be "hell", just hard, and they wouldn't go without food or toilets during those 16 hours. And while I agree that the current labour force might get a little miffed I believe their are enough jobs out there despite what people say.

As for the example offences you've mentioned, I think that's all the more reason why criminal cases should be judged on a case-by-case basis instead of having flat penalties like prison terms. Minor drug offences or council tax problems can be punished through many, many other means than prison time.
 
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