Rio Ferdinand - England captain
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"drug cheat" is rather misleading.
It should go on recent actions, specifically on the pitch.
In which case, Englands best current defender is Rio, whose recent actions have been fine and who has stepped in as captain numerous times for club this season, with obvious success. So he seems a fair choice to me.
If were saying he should be excluded for things done in the past, it's only fair to say the same for Terry. Its ridiculous to argue which of the two have set the worst examples in days gone by. They have both messed up and any policy regarding that should apply to both.
It should go on recent actions, specifically on the pitch.
In which case, Englands best current defender is Rio, whose recent actions have been fine and who has stepped in as captain numerous times for club this season, with obvious success. So he seems a fair choice to me.
If were saying he should be excluded for things done in the past, it's only fair to say the same for Terry. Its ridiculous to argue which of the two have set the worst examples in days gone by. They have both messed up and any policy regarding that should apply to both.
I'm surprised at the number of comments doubting it, he's captained Man Utd several times and done brilliantly. He's also the form defender in the league, if not Europe. I've not seen anyone perform consistently as well as him.
4 goals all season conceded at home in the league this season speaks volumes. He's a leader on the pitch and in the dressing room.
I think those who doubt it should go and buy a clue.
4 goals all season conceded at home in the league this season speaks volumes. He's a leader on the pitch and in the dressing room.
I think those who doubt it should go and buy a clue.
I also wonder how much Capello is asserting some authority over the Premiership managers - last time almost all the Man Utd players played the full match, this match he makes Rio captain as he can't really shirk the game with a 'muscle strain' now, and so neither can the other Man Utd players.
Likewise it was interesting to see Lampard & Rooney report fit for the game, I wonder if under the previous manager they might have cried off from the England game under 'managers orders'?
Not just Man Utd players obviously, although it seems they often picked up 'niggles' when friendlies came up
Likewise it was interesting to see Lampard & Rooney report fit for the game, I wonder if under the previous manager they might have cried off from the England game under 'managers orders'?
Not just Man Utd players obviously, although it seems they often picked up 'niggles' when friendlies came up
Didnt he **** all over the dance floor in front of people?
Didnt he get boozed up and make a tit of himself whilst away with England the one time?
Didnt he get arrested for bottling a bouncer (not a bad thing mind)
Didnt he laugh at the yanks at the airport right after 911?
Comparing Rio's situation with Tony Adams is daft as well, he was a raging alcoholic for one not a fresh from the hoods kid with more money than sense
Not just Man Utd players obviously, although it seems they often picked up 'niggles' when friendlies came up
Like Nani and Ronaldo have you mean?
The captaincy is a complete non issue. He should just give it to the player with the most caps or the oldest age. Its not like the Captain plays a particularly big role in football. Shouting 'Come on lads' and clapping your hands isn't leadership.
FFS why all the moaning - he's one of the few players in the squad who, on current form, deserves a starting place.
Whoever was selected, there would be complaints - Terry (comments as above), Rooney (inexperienced perhaps, firebrand nature, penchant for middle aged whores), Owen (form not enough to guarantee place), Beckham (no longer up to international scratch), Lampard / Gerrard (who starts, can they play together blah blah) etc etc.
He's the best choice, and although I thoroughly hate Man United, and it pains me to say it, he's a class act.
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Whoever was selected, there would be complaints - Terry (comments as above), Rooney (inexperienced perhaps, firebrand nature, penchant for middle aged whores), Owen (form not enough to guarantee place), Beckham (no longer up to international scratch), Lampard / Gerrard (who starts, can they play together blah blah) etc etc.
He's the best choice, and although I thoroughly hate Man United, and it pains me to say it, he's a class act.
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Absolutely, although at times, it's great to see your skipper plough into a tackle, get up and roar at the others to fight for the cause - ala Stuart Pearce, Tony Adams - inspirational.
Someone like Michael Owen squeeking at you wouldn't exactly stir the emotions.
Ask Newcastle.
Captains lead in different ways. Ferdinand leads by giving a calming effect by showing he's in control, that's how he does it at United. He's done a fantastic job at United and should be our full-time Captain (and I think he will be next season).
If you look at purely footballing reasons:
Rio never goes missing in a match.
Rio makes more passes than almost any other united player, and as such is a huge influence in dictating play and possession.
He's a better defender than Terry.
Although he does act like an arse, he isnt a complete tool like Terry.
Rio never goes missing in a match.
Rio makes more passes than almost any other united player, and as such is a huge influence in dictating play and possession.
He's a better defender than Terry.
Although he does act like an arse, he isnt a complete tool like Terry.
Hmmm, the same Terry that was part of the defence when Chelsea conceded all of 16 or something goals in a season, or set records for clean sheets in a row.
Just because Chelsea have been poor of late and Terry having injuries doesn't mean he becomes a poorer player. On their day Terry is one of the best in the world and most know that, certainly a better player than Ferdinand. It's lucky for England we have them both as CB's.
I don't think Terry is a better player in my opinion, I think Ferdinand is better in all respects other than perhaps Terry's bravery - but then I like to see my defenders play from the back, and bring the ball out of defence - the ball doesn't flatter Terry at all.
But he isn't any better in the air, he has less pace, I wouldn't say his tackling or anticipation is better, hence making him a less competent defender, in my opinion.
Stopping goals, isn't that the Goalkeepers job?
His tackling is certainly better, as is his positioning. I'd also say that until recently he was far, far better in the air, though Rio has closed the gap since playing alongside Vidic.
Defence:
The team that is trying to prevent the other team from scoring
Synonyms: defense, defending team
Antonym: offence (meaning #2)
yep it's the same Terry. also interestingly enough the same players you've got people like Harry Kewell who used to absolutely terrorise english defences going down the left for Leeds, he's the same Harry Kewell who can't get a game for Liverpool now. Or Veron who was astounding in italy but couldn't seem to cut it consistently in the premiership for either United or Chelsea. Players identities are oddly more consistent than their form or ability.
John terry has been a very very good player and still is however he hasn't reached the heights he set himself for an admittedly injury strewn 18 months or so now.
Oh and at the moment i can't think of a better defender in world football than rio ferdinand on current form.