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HIS AGP 512 3850 compat with this dell?

Quaddy

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hi guys, a question if anyone might know, i have tried contacting dell and HIS but no replies!

i am wanting to upgrade to the HIS AGP 512 3850

will this card @ overclockers work with my system below?

specs:

DELL PRECISION 650
DUAL 3.2GHZ XEON PRESTONIA
4GB RAM
AGP 8X SLOT
460WATT PSU
XP PRO SP2

main concern is the power draw, i cant find out what requirements the card needs, i am on a 460watt PSU. i know its a double slot width, any other things i have overlooked which may make this incompatible with my hardware?

cheers for any info or links! :)

Quaddy
 
Card is (approx): 220(L)x100(W) mm, max power draw 95 Watt.

Is that a regular Dell PSU? How beefy are the +12v rails?
 
hi - thanks for the reply

yes its the stock dell psu that came with it.

is that 95w power draw quite high for just the vga portion of a system? - i am unsure how that is ratio wise!?!

beefy rails :) - you will have to pardon my ignorance there,- i will take the 'shroud' off and peak in there - and see what it looks like

ty.
 
95 is relatively low for a high end VGA but it is hard to say whether that was the case (ha ha) when your Dell was designed. Older PSUs tend to have weak +12v rails and stronger +3.3 (reverse of today). That said both of your CPUs will draw from the +12v rail so it should be of a modern design and have reasonably powerful +12v output!

One way to tell is to check what graphics cards were offered for the Precision 650 and then check how much they draw, if they are more or roughly equal to the HD 3850 then it is looking good.
 
ahh i see, good thinking BTW, the card i got in it from dell in 2003, was the nvidia quadro FX500 (cad card) which i guess would be low draw in the grand scheme of things, but will do a look back at what was being offered also.

i had until recently a XFX 256mb AGP Geforce 7800 GS OC in it, until that went, now i have a sapphire radeon 9800 standard. so will try and find out what the geforce was demanding, as that was fine and dandy.

i will try and drill down again on HIS tech specs and see what the PSU requirements are, but believe it or not, couldnt see mention if it and they aint replying. basic stuff really. should be offered forward by them in their blurb! :rolleyes:

maybe its overkill for my BF2 shennanigans, and the 7900 would suffice, but just wanted to re-invest in the 'best' AGP card out there ATM, as am not in a position after this to get a new system.

thanks again.
 
Got a few of these system at work that I look after and they all run Nvidia Quadro FX3000 cards.

If I remember the PSU is in the bottom of the case and is pretty well hid so getting the PSU specs will be hard.

The best thing to do is have a look on the Dell website and see on there as they have all the technical specs for you.
 
Just had a quick look round the web and found a few bits....

On the Dell tech forum, There's some guy running an x1950 AGP in a Precsion 650. Don't know what the rest of his specs are but it seems like it was running that OK as he had benchmarks etc.

Couldn't find much help in the Dell specification pages. All that said was 460w.

From my experience, I would say that it is resonably beefy PSU so I would have thought 2 +12v rails at approx. 17amps. Thats just my guess so don't shoot me if it's wrong ! ! !

Best bet is to have a look on the sticker of the PSU.
 
jeggsy said:
There's some guy running an x1950 AGP in a Precsion 650.
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That's promising, I'm not sure the 3850's are much more power consuming than the 1950's. Plus Dell PSU's are known for punching above their wattage. Finally precision is the workstation line & PSU is one area they may have upgraded. I reckon you'll be OK.
 
thanks very much guys, i came up with approximately the same conclusions and same limited info on it all, as you say that propietory psu is tricky to get at. i will go with the 3850 though.

ty
 
Sorry to jump on this thread, but save creating a separate topic could I pose a question in regards to this new 3850 AGP card.

Would i benefit at all upgrading to that card from the 1950 512mb pro in my current sys spec (sig)
 
Montegue said:
Sorry to jump on this thread, but save creating a separate topic could I pose a question in regards to this new 3850 AGP card.

Would i benefit at all upgrading to that card from the 1950 512mb pro in my current sys spec (sig)
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Should do, as the 3850 is a much better card, will help if that FX CPU is overclocked.
 
Montegue said:
Sorry to jump on this thread, but save creating a separate topic could I pose a question in regards to this new 3850 AGP card.

Would i benefit at all upgrading to that card from the 1950 512mb pro in my current sys spec (sig)
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I'd say so. I went from an X1900XT overclocked past XTX speeds to the 2900Pro. However when the 2900Pro is overclocked past XT speeds it's faster than the 2900XT which is comparable to the HD3870XT. With me having the faster X1900 and getting a slightly faster card it kind of evens it out though and I found the jump up to be pretty good to be honest.

I've been having problems in Call of Duty 1 with the 8800GTX (known stutter/lag problem with 8 series cards) so I put the 2900Pro in last night and with the 850Mhz core clock and the 1000Mhz memory clock it runs CoD4 faster than the GTX without AA (I don't play with AA when online and @ 1600x1200). In fact it runs CoD4 without AA a lot faster/smoother to my surprise. This is using the 8.3 drivers in XP.

I'd go for it. Only a few games I didn't notice much difference between the two cards (x1900/2900Pro) was World In Conflict and Command and Conquer 3. Everything else ran a lot better for me. This was on old drivers and I didn't play many games with the 2900Pro as I was hooked into Call of Duty online.
 
J.D said:
Depends on the size of resolution on your screen. What is the highest resolution you can use?.
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Looks like 1680x1050 going by the Samsung monitor he has.

At that res cpu bottlenecking is tailing off so it's not so important in most games.

If i were Montegue i'd invest in a freezer 64 pro (HERE) and clock it to at least 2.8ghz - he's got a good board and the FX chip should handle that speed ok.

As long as temps don't push past 65c under 100% load then he'll be fine.

gt
 
gt_junkie said:
Looks like 1680x1050 going by the Samsung monitor he has.

At that res cpu bottlenecking is tailing off so it's not so important in most games.

If i were Montegue i'd invest in a freezer 64 pro (HERE) and clock it to at least 2.8ghz - he's got a good board and the FX chip should handle that speed ok.

As long as temps don't push past 65c under 100% load then he'll be fine.

gt
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I never seen any monitor information in the thread. You're right though. 1680x1050 will be fine.

Also good advice on the cheap but very efficient cooler ;). Will let him overclock more and get the best out of his new card at the same time as well as have a faster PC :D.
 
What's the deal with power connections on this card?

I notice it needs an 8-pin connection, which my PSU des not have. I only have molex connectors available.

Does the card come with a Molex to 8-pin convertor as OcUK don't seem to stock such a thing?
 
Thanks to ACESHIGH, J.D. & gt_junkie and yes i run games @ full native res of the monitor. Will order the card and cooler now, thanks guys.

Monty ;)
 
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