8k Burning a hole in my Pocket

[TW]Fox;11394347 said:
Then I see little point in discussing this any further if you feel a Golf based Skoda is the same for long distance comfort as a large BMW or Volvo. Thats just daft.
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Yes, cause the octavia is TINY. Hardly golf size is it? I think my car is exactly the same as my Dads 3 series pretty much. Certainly not much smaller than the volva.

[TW]Fox;11394347 said:
Yea, the enjoyable fun of keeping to 80mph using the skill of your foot :confused:
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Sticking at a constant 80mph is enough to bore most people I'd say. Even Dad says he prefers not using the cruise control that much. Not great if the motorway is busy either. It's not hard to keep a constantish speed... variety is the spice of life Foxy ;)

[TW]Fox;11394347 said:
There we go again with the modded Octavia of doom. For a 180bhp car, the MPG is hardly something to throw a party about.
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For the size of it i'd say it peforms better than average on the MPG front. Find a similar size / performance car that does around the same please?

[TW]Fox;11394347 said:
The Octavia wont do everything he wants unless like you he feels a Golf based car does everything a Maybach does on the Motorway.
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What else does he want to do? :confused:
 
An Octavia would be the same as the Toledo I had, previous to a Fabia, previous to my Leon (MKII) and to top it off I ran around in a MKII Polo on passing - as good as Vag cars are I think im all Vag'd out.

I only do 10k a year but thats made up of a short plod to work and the ocasional long trip. As much I loved the Leon I have just sold driving it anywhere near its limits involved generally breaking speed limits significantly and its ride was pretty poor on iffy road surfaces, hence the wish for something more comfortable that I wont be inclined to sling around quite so much. With a remap a D5 would still have a bit of poke in a straight line (200bhp and a shed load of torque) and give reasonable economy which with fuel prices as they are and a house purchase on the horison seems pretty appealing.

I still have the girlfriends MK6 Fiesta Zetec-S for throwing around, something it does IMO very well but with the confines of speed limits.
 
ethos said:
I've driven my Dads bmw long distance with cruise control and a nice arm rest, wouldn't say it was any nicer to munch miles on. Sure, cruise control is nice- but you can get that for under a tonne from the dealers if you really need it. Personally I quite like controlling the speed myself. Each to their own though. So bar the lack of cruise control (quite a lot do have them as an added extra though) what else is so bad about the octy? I think it fits the bill fine.
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I preferred my mum's '99 318i for motorway driving compared to my Toledo 20vt which is pretty much identical to the Octavia. The BMW was slow as hell compared but it was much smoother. A tuned Octavia is a rubish motorway cruiser.

ethos said:
1.8 pot that can push out some decent bhp, infact about the same as your 3.0 with better mpg? Seems alright to me. Standard form 42mph is doable on a long cruise.
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And that is it's fatal flaw in this department. It is a low capacity engine with a high power output and by it's nature is nowhere near as smooth as a high capacity and well balanced engine with a lower bhp per litre ratio. Hell, even my Z4 with it's teeth removing suspension and rock solid runflat tyres is a better motorway cruiser than the Toledo (Octavia) because the engine is just so much smoother.

ethos said:
I think he'd be happy if he could get a car that does everything he wants AND gives him a grin, wouldn't you say?
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A lot of big executive saloons can put a smile on your face. The E39 springs to mind.



ethos said:
Yes, cause the octavia is TINY. Hardly golf size is it? I think my car is exactly the same as my Dads 3 series pretty much. Certainly not much smaller than the volva.
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The Octavia is relatively small inside when compared to executive saloons. It is very similar sizewise to the interior of a Golf.


ethos said:
For the size of it i'd say it peforms better than average on the MPG front. Find a similar size / performance car that does around the same please?
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The MPG of the 1.8T isn't anything special. It's not bad on the motorway but around town it is shocking. I averaged 29.5mpg in my Toledo on my commute to work which is 18 miles of motorway there and 20 miles of A/B roads back. As a comparison, my Z4 averages 28.2mpg on the same journey and it's still tight with just over 2000 miles on the clock.



The Octavia just isn't in the same league as motorway cruising specialist executive saloons like the Volvo S60/80, 5 series BMW, Mercedes E class, Audi A6 etc. It is a completely different car aimed at a completely different market and based on what the OP wants, a modified Skoda is a ludicrous idea.
 
Scuzi said:
I preferred my mum's '99 318i for motorway driving compared to my Toledo 20vt which is pretty much identical to the Octavia. The BMW was slow as hell compared but it was much smoother. A tuned Octavia is a rubish motorway cruiser.
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Personal preference, I find completely the opposite. Mine can munch up miles fine, infact I'm travelling to Liverpool next month which is over 1k mile roundtrip. The octavia large boot and decent room in the back will be perfect for four of us to go up in.

Scuzi said:
And that is it's fatal flaw in this department. It is a low capacity engine with a high power output and by it's nature is nowhere near as smooth as a high capacity and well balanced engine with a lower bhp per litre ratio. Hell, even my Z4 with it's teeth removing suspension and rock solid runflat tyres is a better motorway cruiser than the Toledo (Octavia) because the engine is just so much smoother.
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Smooth in what sense? Not sure I follow you here? If we are talking about power delivery sure. But sitting on the motorway at 80mph I can't see how a larger capacity engine would make anything "smoother".


Scuzi said:
The Octavia is relatively small inside when compared to executive saloons. It is very similar sizewise to the interior of a Golf.
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I think it has lots of leg room and the boot is massive. My friend has a mk4 golf and it feels a lot smaller inside?

Scuzi said:
The MPG of the 1.8T isn't anything special. It's not bad on the motorway but around town it is shocking. I averaged 29.5mpg in my Toledo on my commute to work which is 18 miles of motorway there and 20 miles of A/B roads back. As a comparison, my Z4 averages 28.2mpg on the same journey and it's still tight with just over 2000 miles on the clock.
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I didn't say it was "special" I said it was higher than average for it's performance/size. To get 29.5mpg on a run in the toleda goes to show it's not as economic as the octavia. I can easily achieve 35mpg+ on a/b roads. I think that's pretty good in all accounts.

:)
 
ethos said:
To get 29.5mpg on a run in the toleda goes to show it's not as economic as the octavia.
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It's the same car and weighs about the same - so clearly the driving style differs here.

I can easily achieve 35mpg+ on a/b roads. I think that's pretty good in all accounts.
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My engine is almost twice the size yet delivers similar economy and 60bhp more :confused:

Plus 30mpg around town? Get out, I refuse to believe thats possible, not proper town town (Start from cold, drive through traffic, not cruise into town wtih a warmed up engine and catch all the lights on green). I only got about 34mpg under those conditions from a 1.9TD!
 
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[TW]Fox;11394817 said:
My engine is almost twice the size yet delivers similar economy and 60bhp more :confused:
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wheras mines a 1.8T and delivers a damn site less economy,

best i've managed was 26.8mpg :) funnily enough the more you trash it the better the fuel economy,
sticking to 70 see's low 20's which even for a 260 bhp car is poor
 
[TW]Fox;11394817 said:
It's the same car and weighs about the same - so clearly the driving style differs here.
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and? The car can still delivery that MPG.

[TW]Fox;11394817 said:
My engine is almost twice the size yet delivers similar economy and 60bhp more :confused:
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You car is 240bhp standard? Thought they were 210bhp ish...

Can yours get 40mpg cruising at 65ish? If so that's pretty impressive.


[TW]Fox;11394817 said:
Plus 30mpg around town? Get out, I refuse to believe thats possible, not proper town town (Start from cold, drive through traffic, not cruise into town wtih a warmed up engine and catch all the lights on green). I only got about 34mpg under those conditions from a 1.9TD!
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must have been different driving style? ;)

:p
 
ethos said:
and? The car can still delivery that MPG.
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30mpg pure town driving? I really dont think it can.

You car is 240bhp standard? Thought they were 210bhp ish...
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231bhp. So 51bhp.

Can yours get 40mpg cruising at 65ish? If so that's pretty impressive.
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I'm not actually sure what it will do cruising at 65 but with cruise set to 75 indicated for a trip of 300 miles it attained 39.2mpg from South Brent, Devon to the A1M, York at the end of 2006.
 
[TW]Fox;11395026 said:
30mpg pure town driving? I really dont think it can.
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When did I say pure town driving? Motorway and a/b roads aren't really proper town driving.

[TW]Fox;11395026 said:
I'm not actually sure what it will do cruising at 65 but with cruise set to 75 indicated for a trip of 300 miles it attained 39.2mpg from South Brent, Devon to the A1M, York at the end of 2006.
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Then I am impressed, doubt the octy could get anymore than that at 75.
 
An Octavia vRS is not the right sort of car no matter if it does do 30mpg. It is neither a nice car on the motorway or luxurious. Get into a nice E39 with a straight 6 and you will instantly see they are cars that are worlds appart, as is the A8 I posted above and the Ovlov the OP mentioned.

The Octavia is neither luxurious or a nice motorway cruiser compared to such cars, the end.
 
Have you driven an octavia vrs on the motorway for a decent amount of time?

Luxurious? It's alright, bar cruise control it's not that lesser spec'd that a "nice E39".

Plus traffic cops and taxi drivers love them, they can't be all that bad as a mile muncher :D
 
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