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9800GTX Tri Sli or 9800GX2 Quad Sli
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the GTXs, IMO. I don't really have too much faith in nVidia drivers, and the way that even ATi have been struggling to get it to work, then it seems like it will take nVidia far longer to get their act together.
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Agreed, sorry to say you would be wasting your money if you buy 2x 9800 GTX's and going SLi, as you can buy the exact same cards for £158 each to go SLi now, thats a lot better than buying the same cards at £252 each, also going TRi SLi 9800 GTX's is also a waste, as as i said earlier, 3x 8800 GTX's in TRi SLi are faster, and are also cheaper, don't be one of the mugs Nvidia are releasing this card for, chaging an 8 to a 9 is not worth another £100, you could buy the same 8800 GTS 512mb and scribble the 8 out for a 9 yourself.
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Agreed, sorry to say you would be wasting your money if you buy 2x 9800 GTX's and going SLi, as you can buy the exact same cards for £158 each to go SLi now, thats a lot better than buying the same cards at £252 each, also going TRi SLi 9800 GTX's is also a waste, as as i said earlier, 3x 8800 GTX's in TRi SLi are faster, and are also cheaper, don't be one of the mugs Nvidia are releasing this card for, chaging an 8 to a 9 is not worth another £100, you could buy the same 8800 GTS 512mb and scribble the 8 out for a 9 yourself.
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Fastest is 9800GX2 Quad SLi in those, so for ultimate waste of cash I'd recommend going for 2x 9800GX2.
Honestly, even if you put that you dont want answers like that you cant blame it, yea thats right splash out on almost 400 quid to find a card around the same price or possibly cheaper will own it in july thats 1 single core, it dont take a genius to work out its just completely insane to splash out on those 2 cards.
Honestly, even if you put that you dont want answers like that you cant blame it, yea thats right splash out on almost 400 quid to find a card around the same price or possibly cheaper will own it in july thats 1 single core, it dont take a genius to work out its just completely insane to splash out on those 2 cards.
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No worries mate. In fairness everyones comments including your own have been helpful and given me reason to think carefully about what I will get.
The thing is, we are always waiting for the next big thing. So Nvidia come out in July with this new card, although who's to say it won't be after the Summer. Then ATI announce something, and everyone starts saying let's wait for the ATI card. It happened with the 8800GTX and ATI2900. I'll probably just buy 1 card at the end of the day and see how I go from there. What has got me concerned is this 512meg memory / 256 bit bus thing, which is giving me pause to take a look at the old GTX.
Regarding peoples advice - I honestly think on these forums there is too much of the "it's a waste of money" attitude. I'm sure a lot of posters in the market know this and don't care as they want the latest toy regardless. And some don't, and therefore the advice is welcome. But I see it get out of hand sometimes, and on other forums too. I get tired of people telling me how to spend my money is all.
Also, the Firingsquad review put 2 GX2's ahead in a lot of benches compared to Tri Sli'd Ultras.
Has anyone with a GX2 noticed how hot their temps get. Have seen complaints on the EVGA forums about the fan not spinning up much and temps hitting 85 degrees or so when gaming with the result people are sticking their fans on at 80% or higher with Riva Tuner.
See the 9800GTX is not a new toy, its a G92 core, same specs as the 8800GTS 512, just slightly overclocked. Something new will be the GT200, these 9800GX2'sm 9600GT's etc.. aint new, based on the 8800's released last year, maybe some people think its new and worth it but I cant see it, hell if I could afford it I'd get something thats new but the 9800GX2 aint new, its old.
If the 9800GTX is an overclocked 8800GTS, then how much further will the 9800GTX clock ? If it clocked to insane levels would it not be worth it over the 8800GTS. Maybe not 100 quid worth it I know. Remember lots of people said Ultras were not worth it as they were just overclocked GTX's and most people could clock to ultra levels on the core anyway. But lots of those who bought Ultras were able to clock them beyond what GTX users could get their cards do. Probably because the cores where cherry picked on the Ultras, and the memory was rated higher - which may or may not be the case for the 9800GTX.
To me the 9800GTX is new as I never had a G92
Still don't know if I will buy one, or a GX2, or an 8800GTX or an 8800GTS though.
To me the 9800GTX is new as I never had a G92
Still don't know if I will buy one, or a GX2, or an 8800GTX or an 8800GTS though.
Well you allways have to from your own opinion, but if you ask topical questions then you will get topical answers. buy what you want m8 even if people think its a waste fo money you ern it so its up to you how you spend it.
There is not point in buying the 9800gtx over the 8800gts 512 its the same card for more money so that is a waste of money not just a attitude, but if you feel the need to buy three then go for it personaly i think SLI is a waste never mind Tri SLI but thats just my opinion. People are only trying to help, and might not come accross well on a forum. Dont take things so personaly m8 no one is telling you how to spend your money.
If the 9800GTX is an overclocked 8800GTS, then how much further will the 9800GTX clock ? If it clocked to insane levels would it not be worth it over the 8800GTS. Maybe not 100 quid worth it I know. Remember lots of people said Ultras were not worth it as they were just overclocked GTX's and most people could clock to ultra levels on the core anyway. But lots of those who bought Ultras were able to clock them beyond what GTX users could get their cards do. Probably because the cores where cherry picked on the Ultras, and the memory was rated higher - which may or may not be the case for the 9800GTX.
To me the 9800GTX is new as I never had a G92
Still don't know if I will buy one, or a GX2, or an 8800GTX or an 8800GTS though.
I dont think they will be more then 5% faster even if they are overclocking champions, and the early cards will more than likly be the worst clockers as the FAB's get upto speed and sort out the yeilds.
If they have the 1.1volt lock then the chances are they will have exactly the same OC head room as the 8800 unless somone like EVGA feel the cards have more to offer in terms of clock speed and do there own mods, but i cant see anyone doing that for least 3 months and then bandwidth will hold them back at some point anyway and no amount of overclocking will make any differance.
So i would say there will only be a small differance between the two, but we'll all have to wait and see they might have more than 1.1volts and could be more than 5% faster.
If i was you i would get somthing like this and hope to get the clock speeds up.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-031-EA&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=877
By the way have you considerd the system memory aspect of having 1536mb or 2304mb of video ram if you go Tri SLI?
Will be running Vista 64.
I looked the Firingsquads review of the GTX today and compared it to the benches they ran with the GX2.
For Crysis at 1920x1200 with 2X AA it looks like GX2 Quad is the fastest solution ahead of 8800 and 9800 tri sli configs. Still, I'm now trying to source a cheap 2nd hand OEM 8800GTX from a mate.
Crysis High Performance 1920x1200 2xAA
9800GX2 Quad Sli 41.7
8800 Ultra Tri Sli 35.1fps today / 36.4 last week
9800 GTX Tri Sli 32.2fps
8800 Ultra Sli 29.5fps today / 30.4 last week
9800 GTX Sli 27.4fps
9800GX2 25fps today / 26.1 last week
8800Ultra 19.4 fps today / 19.3 last week
9800GTX 17.2fps today
8800GTX 17.5 last week
8800GTS 512 15.9 today/15.6 last week
I looked the Firingsquads review of the GTX today and compared it to the benches they ran with the GX2.
For Crysis at 1920x1200 with 2X AA it looks like GX2 Quad is the fastest solution ahead of 8800 and 9800 tri sli configs. Still, I'm now trying to source a cheap 2nd hand OEM 8800GTX from a mate.
Crysis High Performance 1920x1200 2xAA
9800GX2 Quad Sli 41.7
8800 Ultra Tri Sli 35.1fps today / 36.4 last week
9800 GTX Tri Sli 32.2fps
8800 Ultra Sli 29.5fps today / 30.4 last week
9800 GTX Sli 27.4fps
9800GX2 25fps today / 26.1 last week
8800Ultra 19.4 fps today / 19.3 last week
9800GTX 17.2fps today
8800GTX 17.5 last week
8800GTS 512 15.9 today/15.6 last week
You won't loose it in Vista 64. You have access to the full 4gig ram, unlike Vista 32 or any 32bit OS which can only address a max of 2 ^ 32 or 4gigs ram. A 64 bit OS can obvioulsy address a lot more (2 ^ 64), so devices like video cards will use the address space outside what your 4gig ram is using.
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