Getting a bike - Help Please - RS125
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Just back, and I bought it 
Got her down to £500 so I took it.
I have all the receipts for the past few years of the bike, plus the V5, which she said she didn't have? Stupid.
Just left it home there so won't get another look at it to Friday, which sucks. Can't wait to get a battery for it, hopefully everything will go well. I'm hoping.
Got her down to £500 so I took it.I have all the receipts for the past few years of the bike, plus the V5, which she said she didn't have? Stupid.
Just left it home there so won't get another look at it to Friday, which sucks. Can't wait to get a battery for it, hopefully everything will go well. I'm hoping.
fun 125 but i'd steer well clear. Engine rebuilds, any number of things that go wrong with them and they arent exactly rockets either.
Learn on something sensible/affordable, and the money you save put towards a proper bike.
EDIT: just read your post above. Hope its reliable and works well for you. Good bikes for performance, for a 125 anyway.
Learn on something sensible/affordable, and the money you save put towards a proper bike.
EDIT: just read your post above. Hope its reliable and works well for you. Good bikes for performance, for a 125 anyway.
Ok, first question already.
I have the battery and starter relay ordered already. She showed me the bike started using jump leads and a battery. Now I for the life of me can't get it started.
She connected the jump leads from the battery to the battery connectors on the bike, then used a wire and hit that off the starter to start it.
I've tried about 10 times now connecting the battery to the bike battery connectors, but nothing happens. The display should light up when turned on (not started) but nothing.
Any ideas? I left my haynes manual in belfast
no "told you so" comments as I knew of these problems already.
Thanks
I have the battery and starter relay ordered already. She showed me the bike started using jump leads and a battery. Now I for the life of me can't get it started.
She connected the jump leads from the battery to the battery connectors on the bike, then used a wire and hit that off the starter to start it.
I've tried about 10 times now connecting the battery to the bike battery connectors, but nothing happens. The display should light up when turned on (not started) but nothing.
Any ideas? I left my haynes manual in belfast
no "told you so" comments as I knew of these problems already.
Thanks
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Ok, first question already.
I have the battery and starter relay ordered already. She showed me the bike started using jump leads and a battery. Now I for the life of me can't get it started.
She connected the jump leads from the battery to the battery connectors on the bike, then used a wire and hit that off the starter to start it.
I've tried about 10 times now connecting the battery to the bike battery connectors, but nothing happens. The display should light up when turned on (not started) but nothing.
Any ideas? I left my haynes manual in belfast
no "told you so" comments as I knew of these problems already.
Thanks
Ok, guessing it's got the usual array of lights (neutral, oil, indicator and main beam), in which case then assuming the basics such as the jump leads have got a good connection and the battery is fully charged then the most likely issue is that you've blown a fuse.
So have a look at the fuses, it's fairly easy to tell if one of them has blown, if it has then replace it but don't try to start a bike like that, if you want to start it then put in a bit of effort and bump start it, it's very easy.
for a 125 1st or 2nd gear should be fine, just run along with the bike in gear, slowly let out the clutch until you feel the drag and can hear the engine trying to turn over, and keep very slowly feeding it till the engine starts, at which point you want to pull the clutch in sharpish
Nice bike! Hopefully get some pictures of mine up at the weekend.
Thanks. I tried the whole bump start thing but it wouldn't work, so I got worried. I tried the jump leads again though and got it to start, I hit the black one off the starter and It worked. Maybe the fuse is gone, how do you check? Should have a few spare.Ok, guessing it's got the usual array of lights (neutral, oil, indicator and main beam), in which case then assuming the basics such as the jump leads have got a good connection and the battery is fully charged then the most likely issue is that you've blown a fuse.
So have a look at the fuses, it's fairly easy to tell if one of them has blown, if it has then replace it but don't try to start a bike like that, if you want to start it then put in a bit of effort and bump start it, it's very easy.
for a 125 1st or 2nd gear should be fine, just run along with the bike in gear, slowly let out the clutch until you feel the drag and can hear the engine trying to turn over, and keep very slowly feeding it till the engine starts, at which point you want to pull the clutch in sharpish
Everything seemed ok, though something up is up with clutch as it doesn't work. I can change gears but I didn't want to mess around too much as pulling the clutch handle didn't do anything. I'm hoping this isn't a big problem. Going to read through the haynes manual and a few forums to see whats up with it. Don't really want to bring it into a bike shop as they will probably notice lots of things wrong with it, and I want to try fix myself.
You got the starter motor to turn by connecting the earth to it? was that whilst pressing the starter button as well? I would've thought if it was the relay that there would be no voltage getting to it, but if you used the earth then it's getting a voltage but hasn't got an earth, could be a wiring fix rather than relay?
If it started then it's unlikely to be fuse I think, on both of my bikes the lights on the dash go through the 'main fuse' which is what also powers the ignition circuit, if that goes nothing works, but depends on your bike so I don't know. The haynes manual should tell you where any fuses are, basically they should be spade type, which you pull out and then if you look at the top of the fuse there is usually a hole where you can see the metal wire which will be broken if the fuse is gone.
What lights does it have on the dash by the way, it could just be that it wasn't in neutral hence not showing the neutral light? and being a 2-stroke I can't remember if my old TZR had an oil light, and these are the only two lights that are likely to be lit up with just the ignition on...
Finally the clutch, guessing you've got the bike up on a stand of some form and the rear wheel is spinning? I've never had the bike in gear on a stand before, but it's possible the clutch drags enough even when it's off to allow the wheel to spin? best thing to do would be to check where the clutch cable goes to the clutch housing and check that that is actually moving (eg the clutch cable is ok)
Then fix up the starter/battery issue, put the bike in neutral (either check that the light comes on, or change into it with the engine off and try to manually move the rear wheel, that should show that it's in neutral), then take the bike off the stand, start it up and try to shift to first, if the clutch is broken then it won't go in very easily/at all.
If it started then it's unlikely to be fuse I think, on both of my bikes the lights on the dash go through the 'main fuse' which is what also powers the ignition circuit, if that goes nothing works, but depends on your bike so I don't know. The haynes manual should tell you where any fuses are, basically they should be spade type, which you pull out and then if you look at the top of the fuse there is usually a hole where you can see the metal wire which will be broken if the fuse is gone.
What lights does it have on the dash by the way, it could just be that it wasn't in neutral hence not showing the neutral light? and being a 2-stroke I can't remember if my old TZR had an oil light, and these are the only two lights that are likely to be lit up with just the ignition on...
Finally the clutch, guessing you've got the bike up on a stand of some form and the rear wheel is spinning? I've never had the bike in gear on a stand before, but it's possible the clutch drags enough even when it's off to allow the wheel to spin? best thing to do would be to check where the clutch cable goes to the clutch housing and check that that is actually moving (eg the clutch cable is ok)
Then fix up the starter/battery issue, put the bike in neutral (either check that the light comes on, or change into it with the engine off and try to manually move the rear wheel, that should show that it's in neutral), then take the bike off the stand, start it up and try to shift to first, if the clutch is broken then it won't go in very easily/at all.
I'm not sure what earth is etc. so bare with me please.
I connected the red jump lead to my car battery and the other side to the normal red battery connector on the bike. I then connected the black jump lead to the wire going towards the starter motor. This wire normally goes to the relay. I then connected the other end of the black jump lead to the battery and let it start then removed it.
All the dash lights went on and when in neutral the wheel didn't spin. When I changed gear it started to spin. I never tried putting the read brake in, I guess I should have to see if she stalls. I'll try tonight.
I have it on a stand by the way.
I didn't have much time last night, and didn't have the haynes manual with me, but I've looked through and now know where the clutch cable is, so I will have a look tonight. Really hope it is the cable away because changing the clutch looks difficult.
I have a starter relay on the way from ebay and I'll get a battery tomorrow and get that problem sorted. Can't wait to ride the thing..
Many thanks!
I connected the red jump lead to my car battery and the other side to the normal red battery connector on the bike. I then connected the black jump lead to the wire going towards the starter motor. This wire normally goes to the relay. I then connected the other end of the black jump lead to the battery and let it start then removed it.
All the dash lights went on and when in neutral the wheel didn't spin. When I changed gear it started to spin. I never tried putting the read brake in, I guess I should have to see if she stalls. I'll try tonight.
I have it on a stand by the way.
I didn't have much time last night, and didn't have the haynes manual with me, but I've looked through and now know where the clutch cable is, so I will have a look tonight. Really hope it is the cable away because changing the clutch looks difficult.
I have a starter relay on the way from ebay and I'll get a battery tomorrow and get that problem sorted. Can't wait to ride the thing..
Many thanks!
Try connecting up the battery from your car, to the bike battery as normal.
Then find the starter relay and get a largeish screwdriver.
Short across the terminals with the screwdriver and the bike may start.
Aprilia starter relays ( no matter whether it's an RS125 or an RSV1000 ) are notoriously rubbish and a common fault across the entire Aprilia range.
Then find the starter relay and get a largeish screwdriver.
Short across the terminals with the screwdriver and the bike may start.
Aprilia starter relays ( no matter whether it's an RS125 or an RSV1000 ) are notoriously rubbish and a common fault across the entire Aprilia range.
I tried connecting it to the battery connectors (there is no battery at the minute), but what you said didn't work. If it is a problem with the relay I should be able to try this tomorrow, as the relay should be here tomorrow.
I have a stand that lifts the back wheel. I looked at how it attaches and can't see how it would effect anything as nothing moves around where is is connected.
Yup, lol. But I new this would happen as everyone said, but after all I want to learn.well mate if nothing else you'll know your way around a bike/engine in next to no time
Ok, got home earlier and started working on the bike.
No idea about the clutch. When pulling the clutch I can hear something moving inside the gearbox/whatever you call it, so I'm guessing the clutch is gone. Going to go into local bike shop tomorrow and see what they say.
The petrol tap was broke so I fixed that. Relay supposedly is coming tomorrow so if it does I'll get a battery and try linking that up. Will save me bump starting it.
I got a spin on it around the house a few times. As have no clutch I just bumped it into first and had a go, then stalled it to stop. God it's quick (well, to me).
No idea about the clutch. When pulling the clutch I can hear something moving inside the gearbox/whatever you call it, so I'm guessing the clutch is gone. Going to go into local bike shop tomorrow and see what they say.
The petrol tap was broke so I fixed that. Relay supposedly is coming tomorrow so if it does I'll get a battery and try linking that up. Will save me bump starting it.
I got a spin on it around the house a few times. As have no clutch I just bumped it into first and had a go, then stalled it to stop. God it's quick (well, to me).
Does it stall when the bike comes to a stop even with the clutch pulled in? if so then yeah, guessing the clutch has gone (assuming the cable is fine), I don't think these are supposed to be *that* hard on bikes, but never done it
At least you're enjoying it I guess
At least you're enjoying it I guess
Yeah clutch definitely isn't working, or the cable is away as nothing happens when I pull the clutch.
I would try changing he clutch only it looks awfully complicated in the haynes manual, and I don't have many tools.
I would try changing he clutch only it looks awfully complicated in the haynes manual, and I don't have many tools.
I hate to say it, but I think you've bought a money pit.
These RS125s aren't cheap fixer-uppers. They are precision instruments meant for racing. They have nikasil bores etc that need care and the very best 2T oil. Abuse them and they die.
£500 it may have been but for £500 you could have got an immaculate early NS125R or maybe a TZR.
These RS125s aren't cheap fixer-uppers. They are precision instruments meant for racing. They have nikasil bores etc that need care and the very best 2T oil. Abuse them and they die.
£500 it may have been but for £500 you could have got an immaculate early NS125R or maybe a TZR.
Have yet to see a NS125R anywhere over here, and I'm still looking.
And I don't mind the money pit, money isn't a problem really other than parts. I want to do everything myself if possible. I think this is still a bargin.
Had it going again today. Got the starter relay as well, but no battery as of yet. Moved everything all into the garage and going to clean it up. Got the side off the engine and looked at the clutch /clutch cable. The cable seems fine other than it isn't long enough, so I'm looking into that. Not sure how to check if the clutch is working or not. It looks fine, though
Can anyone recommend a tool kit for me? I need something with all the bits and bobs I need, including screw drivers and spanners. Not sure where to look. Could you get that sort of thing from B&Q?