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How can Nokia kill a product that they're already comfortably outselling?
Well the iPhone did overtake Motorola in the US Smartphone market and is literally hot on the heels of RIM (Blackberry).
So Nokia do perceive Apples market penetration as a threat and needs to take them down before they do any further serious damage.
These are really old Nokia shots - almost a year old now I think, and are cgi anyway! I dont have much confidence in Nokia to out do apple in the GUI/OS dept anymore. They will have better functionality and specs but on seeing videos of Nokia's effort at World Mobile Congress - they have a long long way to go. Even the Nokia N95 8gb doesnt have that attention to detail apple has. Coem on Nokia pull your finger out get it sorted!
I have to say the iPhone has the most fluid and sleekest interface out of all the smartphones Ive used. So I have to agree with what you say!
from what I've seen of it so far (on engadget and trusted reviews for example) it seems that its no better than a p900 (excluding the upgraded mobile phone and camera part), it doesn't seem to have any of the niceness that everyone is adding to compete with the iPhone.
I'm pretty much opting for the xperia x1 at this stage assuming the 3G isn't something special, I've had enough of symbian and I'm going to go wm6.1 as I have a load of windows mobile programs due to my pda
I'm pretty much opting for the xperia x1 at this stage assuming the 3G isn't something special, I've had enough of symbian and I'm going to go wm6.1 as I have a load of windows mobile programs due to my pda
How can Nokia kill a product that they're already comfortably outselling?
Comfortably outselling what!?
The iPhone.
Apple's prediction is that they'll sell 10 million phones in the first 18 months. Nokia sells that many phones in a week.
Apple needs a Nokia killer, not the other way around.
The iPhone.
Apple's prediction is that they'll sell 10 million phones in the first 18 months. Nokia sells that many phones in a week.
Apple needs a Nokia killer, not the other way around.
That's like saying Apple need a IBM supercomputer killer because they're both in the IT sector?
Apple isn't competing with Nokia across all mobile phone market segments. Just the high end. Nokia might sell 10million phones in a week but how many of these are N95s against which the iPhone competes? You can't compare cheap Nokia candybar phones at £50 a go when Apple has no products in this segment.
Hard to put an exact figure on it, but on 2nd December, Nokia announced that they had sold 1m N95s in the UK alone (over a nine-month period with poor initial availability). Add in the impact of the 8GB, the E65 and N82 (all in roughly the same class) and there's clearly a lot of comparable phones shipping.
Of course, most of the iPhone's sales are in the USA, where Nokia has very limited penetration (partly due to poor GSM adoption). The iPhone, equally, has had much less traction in Europe, where Nokia is the dominant manufacturer.
Still, the competition is always good. The feature-rich Nokias will put pressure on Apple to uncripple the iPhone, and Apple's engineering will hopefully put pressure on Nokia to put more effort into design and build quality (the latter is already happening; compare the 8GB to the original N95)
The iPhone.
Apple's prediction is that they'll sell 10 million phones in the first 18 months. Nokia sells that many phones in a week.
Apple needs a Nokia killer, not the other way around.
Sorry! I misread it, I thought you were implying the iphone was comfortably outelling everyone else.!
Truth.
Infact Apple has grabbed a considerable share of the Smartphone market, infact they have surpassed Motorola and are literally inches away from RIM.
That sounds a bit dodgy
Truth.
Infact Apple has grabbed a considerable share of the Smartphone market, infact they have surpassed Motorola and are literally inches away from RIM.
That sounds a bit dodgy
No really, as already stated about they have sold 7-8million original silver N95's and Nokia have a lot of higher end phones. The iphone has made a huge impact in the US smartphone market (where Nokia conversely doesnt have a good marketshare) but not the rest of the world. The iphone 2 I believe will be a serious competitor where the current iphone isnt.
Yes way. Take a look at this:
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/02/06/canalys_q4_07_smartphone_biz/
Dont forget that Apple have been in the business for literally 5 miniutes in commercial terms. Yet they have managed to surpass Moto in 1 year and achieve a 6.5% Smartphone marketshare.
Naturally Nokia is the dominant force with over a 50% share, but you can bet yer bottom dollar that Apple's next target is RIM (i.e. black berry).
And Apple haven't even entered the Chinese market yet, so really that puts things in perspective for you.
As for TOTAL HANDSET market share. Apple have achieved their "1%" share in the market. I'd say its not bad going for a company who has no prior GSM/UMTS history
Apple may not be big now, but those numbers dont lie and tell a lot about Apple's penetration into overly saturated market.
na all wrong.. this is the iphone killer
http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html
full 720p on that screen
http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html
full 720p on that screen
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