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The next Gen thread - R700 and GT200

ten80p said:
Of course their are high end cards, even if they are technically re-hashed or old tech cards, both ATI and Nvidia have what they market as flagship cards, and they account for a very very small % of overall sales

As for profit, I agree the like of OCUK prob do well but I guess they are catering for enthusiasts, whereas ATI/Nvidia cater for the masses with 1% being enthusiasts, they'll be more interested on how many thousands of units they can shift to the likes of Dell for OEM/PC Builds than how many GX2's are being snapped up by people who have £350 to spend on a card they may replace within 6 months

I agree the situation in terms of games development moving to Consoles would be worrying though
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You can buy a top end card in name only as you said yourself, so i cant see why you disagree with me in saying there are no high end cards, but whatever.

The enthusiast is a wide segment for both ATI and Nvidia and 1% is not even close m8, if you mean uber high end then it dosnt matter if 0.1% of the market, as we still have to pay a premium anyway, and the actualy profit is more than the midrange, dont confuse sales with profit Nvidia and ATi dont give us high end cards out of the goodness of thier heart, we pay through the noise for them my freind.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
They are a con, how is the 9800 GTX being a dearer 8800 GTS 512mb not a con
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It's clocked higher, better cooler, higher potential overclock, especially with memory, nothing wrong with charging a premium for that, difference i'm seing on most sites is around £50.

Again, I havent seen any users selling a 8800GTS 512MB for a 9800GTX.
 
Shocky-FM said:
It's clocked higher, better cooler, higher potential overclock, especially with memory, nothing wrong with charging a premium for that, difference i'm seing on most sites is around £50.

Again, I havent seen any users selling a 8800GTS 512MB for a 9800GTX.
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Yes there is, you dont jack the price up by £100+ just because you have left the core the same speed, but increased the shader/memory speed a smidge, and changed the first 8 to a 9 in its numbering, bloody hell, your one of Nvidia's targets for these cons by the sounds of it, and the coolers not better, its the same cooler, just longer, as its now the length of the board. :D

Shocky-FM said:
Slower then what?
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Well The 9800 GTX is slower than the 8800 GTX isn't it. :)
 
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9800GTX would give you a nice boost over a 8800GTS 320mb, I'm fairly certain he was refering to the 8800GTS 512MB as it's also based in G92.
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Yes it would but as my intention was to wait until next gen then i am going to wait until june/july not really bothered until i upgrade my motherboard and cpu and ram.
I run at 1360x768 so the 320 not that bad really
 
Fanboy alert! (dalek tone)

The majority can see Nvidia have been a bit greedy from these cards released. I wouldn't care too much about the odd one or two Nvidia boys standing up for their beloved company as their fighting a losing battle. Any review just proves this ;).
 
Lets go by your logic here then.

The BFG 8800 GTS 512mb OC is only £170

The BFG 8800 GTS 512mb OC2 (the slightly higher clocked one) should be £270+ then.

Now im pretty sure its not.:)

Theres no way in hell the 8800 GTS 512mb should be £100+ more expensive (which they were when they first came out) just because its had its shaders and memory overclocked a smidge, and also had its name changed to 9800 GTX.

Nvidia must love you. :D
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
Yes there is, you dont jack the price up by £100+ just because you have left the core the same speed, but increased the shader/memory speed a smidge, bloody hell, your one of Nvidia's targets for these cons by the sounds of it, and the coolers not better, its the same cooler, just longer, as its now the length of the board. :D



The 9800 GTX is slower than the 8800 GTX, the card is supposedly the refresher of.
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Launch prices are always high, but right now I can pickup a 9800GTX for about £200, or £50 over the cheapest 8800GTS 512MB and i'm sure prices will get lower over time.

It's not slower then a 8800GTX, it's about on par faster in some and slower or equal in others, it is slower then an 8800Ultra though.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Lets go by your logic here then.

The BFG 8800 GTS 512mb OC is only £170

The BFG 8800 GTS 512mb OC2 (the slightly higher clocked one) should be £270+ then.

Now im pretty sure its not.:)

Thers no way in hell the 9800 GTX should be £100+ more expensive (which they were when they first came out) than the same cards its slighly higher clocked than, and hasn't had an 8 or a S changed in its name to a 9 and an X.
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Now your just being silly. ;)
 
Shocky-FM said:
Now your just being silly. ;)
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Correction, you were being silly, as that was your logic as i said. ;)

Which was here :-

Shocky-FM said:
It's clocked higher, better cooler, higher potential overclock, especially with memory, nothing wrong with charging a premium for that.
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Shocky-FM said:
It's not slower then a 8800GTX, it's about on par faster in some and slower or equal in others, it is slower then an 8800Ultra though.
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It is slower than the 8800 GTX. :)
 
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The 8800gtx has a bigger bandwidth 384 to 256 so i would think like most 256 cards at high res and a lot of AA's 8800gtx will pull away
 
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queamin said:
The 8800gtx has a bigger bandwidth 384 to 256 so i would think like most 256 cards at high res and a lot of AA's 8800gtx will pull away
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I agree. 1920x1200 territory with max graphic settings and a strong AA/AF presence then the G80 GTX has the bandwidth to deliver a faster smoother gaming experience then the new GTX (It just doesn't sound right saying that the older card is better :o).
 
Shocky-FM said:
But the price difference is only £50 between the cheapest 8800GTS and 9800GTX £150-200, so where did £270 come from? You should probably check current prices online
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It came from as i said, if you add £100+ onto the price of the OC2 over the OC GTS 512mb (taken from the prices they are now just as an example), then it comes to £270+ for the OC2, as im sure £170 + £100+ is £270+. :)

I know the current prices, and do know that the GTX is not £100+ more now, as if you read my post properly, then you would have seen me say :-

Theres no way in hell the 9800 GTX should be £100+ more expensive (which they were when they first came out)


Btw, look at the drivers used on the 8800's in that review. :p
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
I know the current prices, and do know that the GTX is not £100+ more now


Btw, look at the drivers used on the 8800's in that review. :p
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Then I don't understand your point, there called launch prices, there always high, driver don't make that much difference, but there plenty of other reviews, allot of them show the 9800GX2 simalar to a 8800Ultra in many games
 
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