Bear Grylls: Born Survivor WOW
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He wasnt a instructor he was in 21 SAS and saw action in africa i think you will find.
Mears would survive anywher because he knows where the nearest pie shop is, bear would skin mears and use his torso as a rucksack.
No one seen the episode where bear turns a dead reindeer into a toboggan and uses its hind leg for a walking stick?
Bear broke his back in 3 places doing a jump while in sas and 12 months later he climbed everest. Hes also the first person to cross the north Atlantic Arctic Ocean in nothing more than a rubber dinghy, hes also the youngest brit ever to climb Ama Dablam in the himalayas which many mountaineering experts have described as unclimbable because its so dangerous.
Whats fatty mears done then??
Does no one remember bears escape to the foreign legion tv series which he passed?
The guy has done some amazing things and passed sas selection something i'd say 99% of the population would never achieve.
Guy is a legend imo and poops on ray "fatty" mears
Bear has also raised millions of pounds for charity one of he beneficiaries being the Forces - http://www.ssafa.org.uk/
He also holds the world record for the worlds highest open air dinner party
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How does he stay in 5 start hotels in the middle of the desert?
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Like a fly-in/fly-out arrangement. Not difficult.
So the guy stayed in hotels between filming big deal, why should he put his life in danger to make a tv series? He shows how to survive in situations i dont recall him saying i survived 5 days in the desert etc etc. Hes got a filmcrew with him you really think hes going to pu their lives i ndanger by having them film him for 5 days or whatever
The guy has done many unbelievable and dangerous thngs in his life already he has absolutely nothing to prove imo
The guy has done many unbelievable and dangerous thngs in his life already he has absolutely nothing to prove imo
Because that's what the series claims to be all about, and because that's what he claims to do.
Look at his interviews. He actually claims that they drop him in a potentially life-threatening situation, and he survives purely on his wits and skills alone, with a couple of basic tools.
That is his claim, and it is demonstrably false.
I don't care what else he has done. It's no excuse for making stuff up. If he claims to do something in his TV series, he needs to prove that he's actually done it - and legitimately. If he claims to have done something and we then discover that he didn't actually do it, he's just a lying ******.
Both Mears and Grylls are interesting to watch.
Shows like this will always have "faked" parts to ensure that they are good entertainment for the masses. Just like bits of Ice Road Truckers, Top Gear specials etc are set up to provide a bit of action.
Oh and the last episode of Ray Mears I saw, he was surviving on seaweed tarts or something that he conveniently cooked in foil tart bases from Tesco. Ideal for jungle survival
Shows like this will always have "faked" parts to ensure that they are good entertainment for the masses. Just like bits of Ice Road Truckers, Top Gear specials etc are set up to provide a bit of action.
Oh and the last episode of Ray Mears I saw, he was surviving on seaweed tarts or something that he conveniently cooked in foil tart bases from Tesco. Ideal for jungle survival
The programme is supposed to be a survival guide, not a fly-on-the-wall documentary. I thought that was clear enough. Even so, Bear did get into a little bother over this! It seems some people can believe that they would drop a guy and a film crew off in some of the most inhospitable parts of the world for a few days and just hope they come out the other side with the footage needed. If you truly believe that, you are a fool.
If you have ever seen his program since, you will see that it has a message for these idiots at the start, in which it says that he has help on hand should he need it and that some events are staged so he can show survival techniques.
Also, Bear > Mears
If you have ever seen his program since, you will see that it has a message for these idiots at the start, in which it says that he has help on hand should he need it and that some events are staged so he can show survival techniques.
Also, Bear > Mears
The point is to show survival techniques, not to survive himself.
Seems a lot of people can't just enjoy TV anymore, they have to worry about if it's real or not. You either enjoy it or you don't, who cares if it's real or not.
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It's not clear when you have Bear claiming the exact opposite in his interviews and several of his episodes. What about the infamous "grizzly bear" episode? Bear claimed his camp was being invaded by a grizzly, but it turned out to be a member of staff in a bear costume. You can't just explain that away. It's not the sort of thing that's covered by the disclaimers; this was an outright fraud.
Plenty of fools out there, the last time I checked. Hell, we've even had some people on this thread admitting that they thought it was all real.
IIRC, this disclaimer was only added after the fakes were exposed.
Following allegations that the show deceived viewers into believing that he was really stranded in the wild when he wasn't, Channel 4 temporarily suspended the show. Discovery aired re-edited episodes designed to remove elements that were considered too planned, with a fresh voiceover, and has continued to broadcast the program.
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Bruce Parry IS the daddy. His shows are far better.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tribe/tribes/matis/index.shtml
check the clips on frog poison and getting the juice in the eyes!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tribe/tribes/matis/index.shtml
check the clips on frog poison and getting the juice in the eyes!!
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"The Discovery Channel, which aired the show, insisted that the pantomime bear outfit was hired "as a prank" by the crew and no footage which included the bear costume was broadcast.
But the programme does include a shot of a dark black shape, rustling in the camp a few feet away - something Discovery was unable to explain."
So all it included was dark black shape one word against someone elses no concrete evidence tbh and yes i did read whole article.
Im not defending but i think there just a little to much hatred being boiled up especially by media not saying Bear not had help but i think a lot of the stuff is taken out of context and abit of spin added to make him look bad.
Edit: I dont see the scripts there the Times says they received scripts but they dont show them and fail to backup there claims from what i read.
Any how many of them on evidence page have no information to back up article just says confirmed by member of Production team so we should automatically beleive this. ? (He could just be ex disgruntled employee trying to cash in on some quick money for all we know)
Not to mention most of storys coming from newspapers added a little spin (as per usual) looks like they tried to turn the costume Bear thing into more then a prank tbh.
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Yes, I've read all of that before. But please don't tell me that you actually believe this half-arsed explanation by the production team?
Concrete evidence was provided in the form of photos - photos of the guy in the suit, on set, during the filming of the episode! I can't believe you're denying the obvious. Are you kidding? His own production team has admitted to it! Bear himself has admitted to it! Where's the "spin"? What's being "taken out of context"?
Evidence is here.
Oh, so the Times is lying now?
This isn't about "hate" or "spin". (Hell, I'd never even heard of Bear Grylls until I read this thread, I had no idea he even existed). Bear's own production team (and Channel 4) has publicly admitted that the allegations are true and Bear himself has apologised for misleading the public:
British adventurer Bear Grylls has apologised for misleading viewers of his Channel 4 show, Born Survivor.
The show saw Grylls supposedly abandoned in the wild, but a programme consultant claimed the star stayed in a motel and scenes were set up for him.
"If people felt misled on how the first series was represented, I'm really sorry for that," Grylls told the BBC.
The show's producers have promised the next series of the programme "will be 100% transparent".
"I'm the person that takes the rap for these things, even though I'm not always involved in the editing side of it," Grylls said, "but ultimately it is me on screen.
The truth is much less exciting - we film these things over six days and, after filming the night stuff, we're back with a crew in a base camp lodge - whether it's a tented camp in the Saraha or in Sumatra poncho'd up in the jungle.
The hotel [can be] four walls but not a roof, or a roof with no walls. Yes, we had a lot of those but when we're filming the live night stuff, we're out," he added.
The inconsistencies in the show, which is produced by the Discovery Channel and known as Man vs Wild elsewhere in the world, were raised by US survival consultant, Mark Weinert.
He told the Sunday Times newspaper that Grylls spent nights in a motel in Hawaii when he was claimed to be stranded on a desert island.
Beeb.
See also here, where Bear is interviewed by the Times and admits that they production team did all sorts of stupid stuff, like bringing smoke machines and hot coals to a volcano to make it look dangerous!
So they've admitted that they were faking, and Bear himself has admitted that they were faking. This means he's a liar, because he previously claimed to have done things which he now admits he didn't actually do.
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Yes, I've read all of that before. But please don't tell me that you actually believe this half-arsed explanation by the production team?
Are you kidding? His own production team has admitted to it! Bear himself has admitted to it! Where's the "spin"? What's being "taken out of context"?
Evidence is here.
Oh, so the Times is lying now?
This isn't about "hate" or "spin". (Hell, I'd never even heard of Bear Grylls until I read this thread, I had no idea he even existed). Bear's own production team (and Channel 4) has publicly admitted that the allegations are true and Bear himself has apologised for misleading the public:
British adventurer Bear Grylls has apologised for misleading viewers of his Channel 4 show, Born Survivor.
The show saw Grylls supposedly abandoned in the wild, but a programme consultant claimed the star stayed in a motel and scenes were set up for him.
"If people felt misled on how the first series was represented, I'm really sorry for that," Grylls told the BBC.
The show's producers have promised the next series of the programme "will be 100% transparent".
"I'm the person that takes the rap for these things, even though I'm not always involved in the editing side of it," Grylls said, "but ultimately it is me on screen.
The truth is much less exciting - we film these things over six days and, after filming the night stuff, we're back with a crew in a base camp lodge - whether it's a tented camp in the Saraha or in Sumatra poncho'd up in the jungle.
The hotel [can be] four walls but not a roof, or a roof with no walls. Yes, we had a lot of those but when we're filming the live night stuff, we're out," he added.
The inconsistencies in the show, which is produced by the Discovery Channel and known as Man vs Wild elsewhere in the world, were raised by US survival consultant, Mark Weinert.
He told the Sunday Times newspaper that Grylls spent nights in a motel in Hawaii when he was claimed to be stranded on a desert island.
Beeb.
See also here, where Bear is interviewed by the Times and admits that they production team did all sorts of stupid stuff, like bringing smoke machines and hot coals to a volcano to make it look dangerous!
So they've admitted that they were faking, and Bear himself has admitted that they were faking. This means he's a liar, because he previously claimed to have done things which he now admits he didn't actually do.
End of.
Ah i had not seen the last story i wasnt denying the photos but all it shows is someone in a suit there no concrete evidence that it was used in the show from what i read just someone word agaisnt someone else. I mean all it could be is a prank it could be right ? it dosnt prove that it was entered into the show one bit.
Oh and they dont show the scripts what they claim to have i understand other articles but lets be honest its not the first time and paper added spin and wont be the last imo wouldnt take it all as gospel.
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LOVED that series, really enjoyed it.
I think Bear (and discovery) lied in their presentation of the show. However, I'm not really bothered - Bear obviously has nothing to prove with his credentials and they're not lying about something important. It's quite clear it is primarily a show for entertainment.
If people don't like Bear because of it, that is fair enough, but I think one can't ignore his achievements or charity work.
If people don't like Bear because of it, that is fair enough, but I think one can't ignore his achievements or charity work.
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This is OcUK, of course people can ignore his achievements, infact they've done it all before, better and faster. And as for charity... They don't believe in charity.