Whats your favourite martial art / form of fighting?

Dr Jones said:
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Indeed. Anyone approaching martial arts from a purely physical viewpoint, sports, keep-fit, or even just learning how to "do it" is missing half the journey and will never truly master combat. The spiritual/inner side of martial arts is more important than virtually any other single aspect.
 
Dr Jones said:
That's why you dodge, rather than block.
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Try and dodge a metal bar to the back of your head when you don't know it's coming :)

If you want to beat someone down kill them or just hurt them don't give them a warning, just whack em when they aren't looking.

Honorable? no.

But then your fighting in the street you lost honor a long time ago...
 
Dr Jones said:
Martial Arts takes years to learn and master, most Martial Arts have turned more and more into a form of competitive sports than real Self Learning, Body Understanding Arts.

People want to be like who they see on TV these days, thus most "martial arts" have just blended into a pile of quick learning sports.

Edit: oh and OMG at some rather unorthodox school of martial arts practice - they were more on earning money from students, they take on more students than they can teach and 9 times out of 10, the club teachings more physical warm up than the style and understanding of the arts.
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Dont see why thats really relevant to my post but OK. Of course the stuff shown in films isnt really the same as proper Martial Arts, but to msot people, its indestinguishable and I find it now very boring. Even going as far as Star Wars style of it. I think thats what the appeal of basic fighting like in Gladiator has to me. Still, its all grown tiring really.

- Pea0n
 
Rainmaker said:
Indeed. Anyone approaching martial arts from a purely physical viewpoint, sports, keep-fit, or even just learning how to "do it" is missing half the journey and will never truly master combat. The spiritual/inner side of martial arts is more important than virtually any other single aspect.
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With all due respect I think that's rubbish. I think you can become a master without worrying about anything spiritual. The best footballer/boxer/tennis player in the world doesn't need to worry about spiritual mumbo-jumbo to be the best and the same is true of all sports. Obviously you need to be very strong mentally and you can improve that but to say the spiritual side is more important than virtually any other aspect just sounds rubbish to me.
 
bibalasvegas said:
With all due respect I think that's rubbish. I think you can become a master without worrying about anything spiritual. The best footballer/boxer/tennis player in the world doesn't need to worry about spiritual mumbo-jumbo to be the best and the same is true of all sports. Obviously you need to be very strong mentally and you can improve that but to say the spiritual side is more important than virtually any other aspect just sounds rubbish to me.
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But there's a big difference between Sports and Martial Arts... I'm in a TaeKwonDo sports club, recently saw Master Pak, formerly South Korean's Presidential Body Guard, 10th Dan. In his 80s, doing stuff I would dream about. He is a Master of Martial Arts - he learnt it not just physically but spiritually - as in the understanding of each kick and punch, the reason to why it is done like this and not that. He even create a fair few patterns for this class of martial arts.

One of our club's student, who is damn good at TaeKwonDo knows it like a sport - he can score 7-0 on most opponent he meets in a tournament (basically a straight victory) but you ask him how he does it, he haven't a clue. He just learn to kick and dodge and he does it with good natual balance but without the understanding of the spiritual side to it - thus he is a great sports competitor but no Master in Martial Arts of his studies.
 
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Dr Jones said:
But there's a big difference between Sports and Martial Arts... I'm in a TaeKwonDo sports club, recently saw Master Pak, formerly South Korean's Presidential Body Guard, 10th Dan. In his 80s, doing stuff I would dream about. He is a Master of Martial Arts - he learnt it not just physically but spiritually - as in the understanding of each kick and punch, the reason to why it is done like this and not that.

One of our club's student, who is damn good at TaeKwonDo knows it like a sport - he can score 7-0 on most opponent he meets in a tournament (basically a straight victory) but you ask him how he does it, he haven't a clue. He just learn to kick and dodge and he does it without the understanding of the spiritual side to it - thus he is a great sports competitor but no Master in Martial Arts of his studies.
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So basically your saying to be good at TaeKwonDo you don't need to know the spiritual side of it.

It just makes you a well rounded individual.
 
Dr Jones said:
He is a Master of Martial Arts - he learnt it not just physically but spiritually - as in the understanding of each kick and punch, the reason to why it is done like this and not that. He even create a fair few patterns for this class of martial arts.
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That's not spiritual, that is just a cerebral understanding of the rationale behind each move and their combinations.
 
mp3kla said:
So basically your saying to be good at TaeKwonDo you don't need to know the spiritual side of it.

It just makes you a well rounded individual.
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I'm just stating the difference between how someone Master Martial Arts as to someone who practice it as a sport, just doing it and not knowing why - they just know it's the best (or they're just a natural to it).

So yea, you can be a damn good martial artist but I personally wouldn't class that person a Master when he doesn't understand the spirituality of it. Especially with today's kids, they learn it to show off rather than learning as a Martial Arts.

anyone I think I've kinda side tracked the thread, my bad.

bibalasvegas said:
That's not spiritual, that is just a cerebral understanding of the rationale behind each move and their combinations.
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Hmm, bad explanation on my part. What I'm saying is, the way a Master does it is very very different to a good sports competitor. It's just the way he moves, it's not just about brute strength or speed - there is a sense in balance.

You know the Yin and Yang "mumbo jumbo"? That is essentially the spirit to TaeKwonDo - that is never taught now to students learning it. Unless your take on spirituality is different to how I'm percepting it?
 
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Used to be in.. actually I'm still in my uni's Kendo club but I have not been to any session since Christmas because it takes 2 hours to travel to and back from the dojo and I just don't have the time anymore. It used to be 5 minute walk from where I live but not anymore since they moved it to a different campus.

Not to mention i missed my grading as well :o
 
Sinny said:
The Systema looks brutal.
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Yup. You can't expect anything else from the Russian military :D

Systema's interesting since it was designed scientifically, using theory of biomechanics to optimise fighting techniques. Some videos actually show classrooms with trainee soldiers being shown graphs etc. on a whiteboard.

The 'no contact combat' aspect of it (at 1:44 in the video) is really awesome too – it's basically about neutralising your opponents without even touching them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkXwfukoEUI&NR=1

It's pretty difficult to learn, though, or so I'm told. It takes years to be able to use it effectively in a real fight.
 
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