"Psychics" are going to get owned

well where does it say hell is eternal torture or whatever? doesnt. some people believe it is, some people believe its a pool of fire or something. i believe hell is separation from God. cause when you know your in hell and God exists, what could be worse

I never said it did. However that is what a lot denominations believe.
 
No. I know what I'm talking about, while you're just making hopeless overgeneralisations. Religion ≠ business. They are not equivalents. The majority of religions do not charge for participation; donations are not compulsory. By contrast, a medium will always charge you; the service is never free. You have no choice in the matter.

Viva la difference.

Yes, some branches of some religions are run as businesses; that's no secret. The Pentecostal movement is renowned for it; they have dozens of so-called "faith healers", making heavy demands for "donations" in exchange for prayers and fake "miracles". But this does not prove that religion itself is a business.

You honestly believe religions run off their donations? Get a ****ing grip, they have £BILLIONS invested in just about everything they can invest in, they own massive amounts of land, properties and priceless art, all of which they make tidy profits off by business dealings, Anglican Church (The CofE) made £19Million selling off garage spaces it owned in London not long ago, their property portfolio alone made them £4.3Billion in the same year, but silly me, they are not businesses, they just accidentally found all that money in a collection plate which you don't have to give if you don't want to, but you stand a better chance of going to heaven by helping the funds for the new church roof if you did...:rolleyes:

I'll ask again: would you open a business with a policy of "payment is optional"? Do you think that would be profitable? Your argument is "It works for religion" and you seem to believe that this is an easy road to riches, so why not follow their lead and make your millions?

L. Ron Hubbard already beat me to it. ;)
 
You honestly believe religions run off their donations? Get a ****ing grip, they have £BILLIONS invested in just about everything they can invest in, they own massive amounts of land, properties and priceless art, all of which they make tidy profits off by business dealings, Anglican Church (The CofE) made £19Million selling off garage spaces it owned in London not long ago, their property portfolio alone made them £4.3Billion in the same year, but silly me, they are not businesses, they just accidentally found all that money in a collection plate which you don't have to give if you don't want to, but you stand a better chance of going to heaven by helping the funds for the new church roof if you did...:rolleyes:

Your getting confused between the religion and it's members and *** religion and it's business dealings.

Yes some aspects of the religion are business. But not the part where people come to worship.
 
You honestly believe religions run off their donations? Get a ****ing grip, they have £BILLIONS invested in just about everything they can invest in, they own massive amounts of land, properties and priceless art, all of which they make tidy profits off by business dealings, Anglican Church (The CofE) made £19Million selling off garage spaces it owned in London not long ago, their property portfolio alone made them £4.3Billion in the same year, but silly me, they are not businesses, they just accidentally found all that money in a collection plate which you don't have to give if you don't want to, but you stand a better chance of going to heaven by helping the funds for the new church roof if you did...:rolleyes:

Businesses exist to make a profit, that is a common theme to most of the definitions. A religion exists for the faith of believers and might happen to have functional arms consisting of various enterprises that are businesses so that the religion can keep going. The overriding principle behind almost any business is to make a profit, that isn't the principle aim with a religion, it is a secondary aim if that.

L. Ron Hubbard already beat me to it. ;)

I'm sure there is room for one more religion in the World. :)
 
but when scientific theory's are taught, they are taught as exactly that, theories. Not absolute fact.

Religions are portrayed by their proponents as absolute fact, i.e this DID happen. Why? because the book says it did. (a book that cannot be amended now, NOR added to and updated)

Whereas scientific explanations are more open to change and acceptance of previous mis-information.

Also, as an athiest you should state that you do not believe in god, not that there isnt one, because all things told you do not know that for certain.

So yes, religions should be asked to ensure that they ensure that any audience realises that what they preach is simply their own personal belief, not necessarily fact.
 
but when scientific theory's are taught, they are taught as exactly that, theories. Not absolute fact.
Taught as theory ROFL don't make me laugh. Very few people even understand the scientific model and what it is used for.

eg. When is global warming referenced to as a theory?

So yes, religions should be asked to ensure that they ensure that any audience realises that what they preach is simply their own personal belief, not necessarily fact.
Religion is portrayed as a faith not fact.
religion = faith, so it's not proving anything. It is what it is a belief and a faith. Nothing more. It also doesn't require payment and as such should not fall within the consumer act as you are not buying anything.
 
Also, as an athiest you should state that you do not believe in god, not that there isnt one, because all things told you do not know that for certain.

If you are an atheist then you either explicitly or implicitly do not believe in a god, if you don't know and admit as such then you are an agnostic. There is a long thread in SC on this very topic.
 
You honestly believe religions run off their donations?

Of course not. Did I even say that? No, I did not. So... straw man.

Get a ****ing grip, they have £BILLIONS invested in just about everything they can invest in, they own massive amounts of land, properties and priceless art, all of which they make tidy profits off by business dealings, Anglican Church (The CofE) made £19Million selling off garage spaces it owned in London not long ago, their property portfolio alone made them £4.3Billion in the same year, but silly me, they are not businesses, they just accidentally found all that money in a collection plate which you don't have to give if you don't want to, but you stand a better chance of going to heaven by helping the funds for the new church roof if you did...:rolleyes:

Wow, amazing revelations of well document facts which have been common knowledge for decades! :o U da man, dawg. Is there anything else you'd like to tell me that I already know? :rolleyes:

Simply having investments does not make you a business. I possess two investment properties in Australia; does that make me a business? No, it does not.

I think you need a short course in Economics 101, Business 101, and Reality 101. You appear to have no comprehension of the issues you are attempting to discuss. Let's start with the simple fact that religions - unlike businesses - are non-profit entities.

L. Ron Hubbard already beat me to it. ;)

No he didn't. Charges for Scientology are compulsory, not optional. By contrast, the collection plate at your local church is optional - even for believers.
 
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but when scientific theory's are taught, they are taught as exactly that, theories. Not absolute fact.

Religions are portrayed by their proponents as absolute fact, i.e this DID happen. Why? because the book says it did. (a book that cannot be amended now, NOR added to and updated)

Whereas scientific explanations are more open to change and acceptance of previous mis-information.

Also, as an athiest you should state that you do not believe in god, not that there isnt one, because all things told you do not know that for certain.

So yes, religions should be asked to ensure that they ensure that any audience realises that what they preach is simply their own personal belief, not necessarily fact.

Religions accept that their claims are not provable. That's where faith comes in.
 
Also, as an athiest you should state that you do not believe in god, not that there isnt one, because all things told you do not know that for certain.
.

So then you should have to prove your claims?

Agnostic apatheticness f t w
 
or pick the winning lottery numbers, or win at the casino all the time. I found it slighly amusing that someone i know had their psychic session cancelled after the psychics husband had died, surely she should have seen it coming!
 
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