Have you ever not wanted to buy a console because of the people that created.

Kreeeee said:
And yet they still always turned a profit. They're just better at business.
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Turned a profit yes, selling a handfull of home consoles in comparison to PS1 and PS2.

Better at business would = selling more of their branded home consoles than sony did.

They didnt, they mucked it up because they were greedy, now they have learnt their lesson and are now selling at a price people can afford with a product people want.
The N64 was expensive, nobody wanted it and it had no games, the Gamecube was cheap yes (I've had two) but only had a handfull of games and again nobody really wanted it.

I turned a profit each and every year i was self employed.

Am i better at business than sony?
 
Yep. Took 24 months for my first one to break, I'm on my second now.
Took 6 months for my first PS3 to break. Took 6 months for my second one to break. I'm on my 3rd now.
 
atpbx said:
I turned a profit each and every year i was self employed.

Am i better at business than sony?
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haha. with sony in the red owing millions, yes quite possible.


your a tad sarcactic for my liking. actually the truth is your acting like a bit of a uninformed, sarcastic *****. not really the way to have a discussion is it?

nintendo made more money per console than sony did. they are doing it right now with the wii, only far more so. they are making the most profit so who is more successful? no, nintendo didnt do well enough with the n64 or the Gc. but played themselves out of the market? give over. virtually every gamer i know my age had an n64 or gc at some point. they were far from out of the game. Getting your hardware out there is one thing,. but making a profit from it is quite another. MS wouldnt have got anywhere if they weren't MS. they would have dropped out owning millions like any other console that has failed before it even left the gate and the same would have happened to sony.
Better at business would = selling more of their branded home consoles than sony did.
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no, better at buisness isnt a measurement of how many consoles they sell. if they went bankrupt would they still be better at buisness? no it would be a complete failure but they would have sold more consoles right? right??

i just love the way you criticize nintendo for espensive snes games when those same games were virtually the same price on the megadrive. but you ignored that point when i mentioned it, didnt you? lol, if you think you arent getting through then stay out of the thread. i dont think anybody really wants to listen to that rubbish anyway.
 
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I bought a Gamecube when I saw one for £25 must have been over a year a ago now. It actually has a hell of a lot of good games. It's even better than the Wii for a gamer but not from a business point of view of course.
 
james.miller said:
haha. with sony in the red owing millions, yes quite possible.


your a tad sarcactic for my liking. actually the truth is your acting like a bit of a uninformed, sarcastic *****. not really the way to have a discussion is it?

nintendo made more money per console than sony did. they are doing it right now with the wii, only far more so. they are making the most profit so who is more successful? no, nintendo didnt do well enough with the n64 or the Gc. but played themselves out of the market? give over. virtually every gamer i know my age had an n64 or gc at some point. they were far from out of the game. Getting your hardware out there is one thing,. but making a profit from it is quite another. MS wouldnt have got anywhere if they weren't MS. they would have dropped out owning millions like any other console that has failed before it even left the gate and the same would have happened to sony.

no, better at buisness isnt a measurement of how many consoles they sell. if they went bankrupt would they still be better at buisness? no it would be a complete failure but they would have sold more consoles right? right??

i just love the way you criticize nintendo for espensive snes games when those same games were virtually the same price on the megadrive. but you ignored that point when i mentioned it, didnt you? lol, if you think you arent getting through then stay out of the thread. i dont think anybody really wants to listen to that rubbish anyway.
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Grow up, honestly.
I was there through all of it, from the NES, the Game Boy, then SNES.
Nintendo shot themselves in the foot with the whole sony CD drive add on mess they got themselves into, they stuck with a technology (cartridge) that nobody was interested in and stuck with prohibitive licensing fees for developers to pay if they wanted their games on a Nintendo Console.
They failed to back down on any of the points mentioned not believing for a second Sony couldnt produce something that would sell and well, the FACTS are there for you to see.

As for Sega, they only had to compete with Nintendo, people are prepared to pay XXX amount for a cartridge then they will charge the same.

If you were there when the Snes was at its peak then you would remember the magazines packed with letters and articles moaning about the delays, the fact that the best games sometimes never came at all, the stupidly high priced cartridges.
As it stands, at 24, you were probably not buying SuperPlay, Games master etc etc and reading them during your lunchbreak in the early 90's. So you are arguing with me from your position as a 6-8 year old during the times mentioned. Not your fault but you can hardly be objective.

I've got a Wii, and i bought a gamecube on release, and i had a SNES, so I'm hardly a Nintendo hater.
 
atpbx said:
Grow up, honestly.
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thats pretty funny coming from you :o there is nothing childish about what i have said, in contrast to your own posts.

whats this about games master? lol. i'd bought every issue from 1 to 80 something and my first "gaming console" was an atari xe games system with a light gun and a game called 'bug hunt', 3 years prior the the EU mega drive release, although i had an earlier start with gaming on the family's atari 800xl which is still around today infact. Alternate reality, Mercenary, bounty bob strikes back and boulderdash. Archon, megablast ect ect. so do me a favour, dont assume anything about me because quite honestly you are so far off the mark that ive just had a good laugh at you.

and you still ignored my point about the release price of mega drive games including, but not limited to, SFII. regardless of the questionable decisions nintendo made, they were still there earning money even though the n64 was considered a failure from a slaes point of view. they didnt release a cd addon, a 32bit addon, a portable mega drive that couldnt practically be used without a permanent mains feed (hint: it didnt work for atari so why did you do it sega?) then a 32bit console so complex and hard to program for that it very nearly drove them in to the ground before their next 64bit console (4 years later) did, like sega. they didnt design consoles that were so expensive that they were losing near 50% on every console they sold, either, a la sony or MS. They haven't lost millions in revenue due to repairs like Ms or Sony either. again without the financial backing sony and ms have because of their diversity, its very doubtful either would be here today. but they are, still making losses on consoles.

you have to laugh at the thought that out of the 3 companies, nintendo are poised to make the most profit from mass piracy of their consoles. piracy drove the sales of the ps1 through the roof and ive no doubt it would if it was easier to accomplish on the 360 and especially the ps3. the difference being it would be a bad result for MS and their thriving commercial success. its a funny old game.

/ i get this feeling that you think i look at nintendo with some rosey tinted specs or something after that nintendo hater comment (ive no idea why you mentioned that, i never said nor implied it). 'Fact is i own more sony gear than i probably should (tv, console, mp3 player, handheld console) but ive no problem with telling the truth when it comes to sonys mistakes, and not just with their consoles either. i'm rational, neutral and most importantly informed but that is something i guess you dont know. or refuse to see. but then you can hardly judge me when you know nothing about me. its not your fault but you can hardly be objective, right?
 
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Kreeeee said:
How so?
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I find with the Wii a lot of it's games are being produced to bring people into gaming that would have not considered it before where most of of the cube games where aimed more at more hardcore gamers.

The Wii will do better for business because it's aimed at anyone and designed so all can pick it up and have fun with it.
 
WatchTower said:
I find with the Wii a lot of it's games are being produced to bring people into gaming that would have not considered it before where most of of the cube games where aimed more at more hardcore gamers.

The Wii will do better for business because it's aimed at anyone and designed so all can pick it up and have fun with it.
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Agreed, the Wii is the new family board-game for the living room, it's for everyone, the next step in evolution for family entertainment, yes the PS3 and 360 are very popular but they are still aimed at niche markets, the Wii has lost that gaming 'geek' type stigma completely, it's the first console to truly do that tbh and they deserve allot of praise for it, it benefits everyone, computer games as a whole are becoming more a form entertainment than a hobby, Nintendo have played a big part in changing public opinion in this matter.
 
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I buy a console because of the people that create the games on it if that counts.

Squaresoft, Kojima Productions, Lionhead, Capcom, Rockstar

They sell the consoles for me. :p


So I have a loyalty to companies.
 
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