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Surely bombing purely residential areas, hospitals, schools, etc can't be seen as "legit"? :\

every civilian was doing something to support the army, kill enough of them, and the army can't function.

Also it worked against japan didn't it.
 
And it would all have meant nothing if Germany had won.

And it did mean nothing for a large part of Europe who ended the war swapping one dictator for another and living under a comunist empire (so to speak) instead of a facist empire for around 45 years after Germany lost.
 
So WW2 was a world war, and no war crimes existed as you say, why were there trials and executions of war criminals if no war crime can be commited in a world war. And it dose not take a whole country of people of all ages to make an effort for war.

Correction there where trails for war crimes of those on the losing side, except those who where benifical for the wining side to offer amnesty too.
 
every civilian was doing something to support the army, kill enough of them, and the army can't function.

Also it worked against japan didn't it.

That would be too inefficent, you have to target the useful population, key workers those you find in industry and that is the tactic that was largely used.
 
So WW2 was a world war, and no war crimes existed as you say, why were there trials and executions of war criminals if no war crime can be commited in a world war. And it dose not take a whole country of people of all ages to make an effort for war.

what was it 96% of the GPD was going straight to the war effort. yes it does take the entire country.

As for the prosecutions. Nothing more than muscle flexing and a way to get rid of some people.
 
Take out the factories, shipyards, etc then, it's stupid to bomb houses... and a truly awful thing to do. Also, "every civilian was doing something to support the army" ?? errr, the kids?

If you cant take out the well defended factories, kill the workers, or if you can take out the factories, they can be rebuilt, workers take years to replace.

As for the kids, no one knew how long the war would last, during the five years a large number of people will have grown to the age they could join the army, kill the children, means less troops to fight in later years.

Also it servers to demoralize the country and hopefully force it to surrender, as with the Japanese


Yes, hitting two cities worked against Japan, but I would argue that dropping nuclear weapons on Japanese military targets would have got the message across soon enough :\


"Soon enough" isn't quick enough, and the problem with hitting military targets is they are usually defended, so it couldn't be risked losing a bomb over enemy territory where it could be reverse engineered.
 
Correction there where trails for war crimes of those on the losing side, except those who where benifical for the wining side to offer amnesty too.

Like I said a few times, rules and laws applied where it suited the politics. I never mentioned taking sides in anything just debating the rights and wrongs, both sides did right and wrong. One German general even took his command into a town in Poland to take back the Jews that had been taken from his service and were going to be sent for liquidation. He did not aggree with it and so threatened a weaker force of his own side and took back the Jews so they could not be liquidated (executed). Like I say both sides did right and wrong.
 
And as for Heroshima and Nagasaki, I think the desired effect could have been created by just dropping one in Tokyo bay and saying to the Japs watch this the next one is on your head.

yes, because telling the people you are about to bomb that you are going to drop a bomb from a large slow airplane, from a small, fairly poorly guarded air base is always a genius and fool proof plan.


after all it's not like they would pull their air force back/attack that base and set up large anti air batteries is it?
 
"Soon enough" isn't quick enough, and the problem with hitting military targets is they are usually defended, so it couldn't be risked losing a bomb over enemy territory where it could be reverse engineered.

That could have happened wherever they dropped the bomb so is a mute point, unless of course they dropped it in Tokyo bay or some other sea location.
 
That could have happened wherever they dropped the bomb so is a mute point, unless of course they dropped it in Tokyo bay or some other sea location.

The Japanese did not know what the bomb wa or if the allies could repeat it. Hence why they only surrendered after the 2nd.
 
So what about unit 177(?) that killed an tortured far more people than any general?

They where just accepted in with open arms.

And where did I say they got all the criminals?, nobody will ever know how many got away with things, on any side in the war. for all I know my grandad could have been one of them (he fought for the German army). In the end they probably got less people than it took to staff one small concentration camp and the rest melted away with the displaced and refugees.
 
That could have happened wherever they dropped the bomb so is a mute point, unless of course they dropped it in Tokyo bay or some other sea location.

no they, slowly over a few weeks sent out bombers over cities, which did not have anti air defenses unlike military bases, or where well guarded by fighters like Tokyo, for a few weeks the bombers did nothing just flew over nice and slow, till everyone got used to them as just recon planes, then without word, nor warning the next time they flew over a little black dot fell from them.
 
They seem pretty cool to me, plenty of people collect guns, medals etc. from WWII, Hitler is a historic figure, he was a historic failure and paid the ultimate price for his uber right wing policies.

I don't really see a problem

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I know what war crimes are, however under world war they do not exist. A country will not surrender encase someone gets punished 30 years down the line. the idea or war crimes in an international war is a stupid idea. You can surly see how it can't work and does not exist, in any real sense.

Bombing of "civilians" in a world war is totally legit as every single person is doing there part for the war machine.

What, so you know what war crimes are, but basically you're saying "all's fair in war" so you don't think they should exist as punishable offenses?
the idea or war crimes in an international war is a stupid idea.
- so they're only sensible in civil war?:confused:

The idea of war crimes is to stop people committing them, and punish them for committing atrocities such as mass killing, torture, rape etc. I'm not sure what is so stupid about that. Care to explain?
 
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