War on terrorism? or war for oil?

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Forgive me if this has already posted but after seeing this I'm starting to wonder if all those conspiracy nuts who claimed 9/11 was staged as a catalyst to invade Afghanistan/Iraq might have actually been onto something...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqtFaM9IKhM

John McCain said:
My friends, I will have an energy policy that we will be talking about, which will eliminate our dependence on oil from the Middle East that will -- that will then prevent us -- that will prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East.
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dark_shadow said:
WMD that they never found.
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Nope, but that doesn't mean they weren't there or that there wasn't a threat.
When you had the head of the inspector team saying they could get access and Saddam was playing games with them. It's not a good position. It's funny how he suddenly went on the news the next morning after war plans where drawn up and denied any problems.
 
Azagoth said:
Show me the vast oil fields of Afghanistan and I may start to believe!
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No, but in '98 America wanted a new government in Afghan in order to the construction th e Afghan oil pipeline project.

Towards end of 98, arounds 80 cruise missiles were fired into Afghanistan. US then starts to move in. US gets a their behinds handed to them by a few talibans in the north province of the country. And so it goes on . .

Let's put that aside. Say they absolutely no motive whatsoever, what led them into Iraq? They achieved their 'objective' why on earth don't they move out? To offer democracy and restore peace and order to people who don't want it? :confused:

Let's 'push' this aside for a moment. Bush said:

Iraq remains a destabilising influence to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East' and because this is an unacceptable risk to the US. US 'military intervention' is necessary
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There is a wealth of evidence behind the motives.

But as usual, you can't hold up a discussion or debate of any kind.
 
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[TW]Fox;11620947 said:
Whats the problem? Mankind has fought over vital resources for thousands of years.
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It's funny how western society believes it's changed by abolishing slavery, death games, "giving" women rights etc yet it still doesn't hesitate to make false excuses(to its people) to invade other countries for precious finite resources. Anything to keep your BMW running right?

Azagoth said:
Show me the vast oil fields of Afghanistan and I may start to believe!
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America needs to feed its drug habit somehow
 
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Azagoth said:
Show me the vast oil fields of Afghanistan and I may start to believe!
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They are planning on laying an oil/gas pipeline through the country which was refused by the taleban government. A country dose not have to hold the reserves to be important to getting the reserves where they are needed. Afghanistan provides a cheaper route to move the stuff.
 
milkinc13 said:
if it was about WMD's then how come bush or any of the other world leaders havn't started to attack North Korea?
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The answer to that is simple, the WMDs that North Korea have are real lol. Its over oil and for the fact that the average American thinks spending $1 on oil is ludicrous. (not the actual figure obviously)
 
They couldnt directly jump into Iraq, so they invaded afghanistan - convince people of a worldwide threat and they could go into iraq more easily. Its all mind games people, FEAR is the number 1 weapon anybody can have in their arsenal.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Nope, but that doesn't mean they weren't there or that there wasn't a threat.
When you had the head of the inspector team saying they could get access and Saddam was playing games with them. It's not a good position. It's funny how he suddenly went on the news the next morning after war plans where drawn up and denied any problems.
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Eh? You are rewriting history. The head of the inspectors said Saddam WAS fully cooperating and they needed more time to search. The US said no, pull out, we are going to invade anyway. The US was going to invade come what may; WMDs was just a pretence for war, nothing else.
 
icey_haj said:
They couldnt directly jump into Iraq, so they invaded afghanistan - convince people of a worldwide threat and they could go into iraq more easily. Its all mind games people, FEAR is the number 1 weapon anybody can have in their arsenal.
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Agreed, the American media are the ones that are scaring the American public into submission aswell.
 
manoz said:
It's funny how western society believes it's changed by abolishing slavery, death games, "giving" women rights etc yet it still doesn't hesitate to make false excuses(to its people) to invade other countries for precious finite resources. Anything to keep your BMW running right?
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I was kinda thinking along the lines of maintaining life as we know it but, yea, keeping the BMW running works as well.
 
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