What renewable energy is cheaper than oil, with minimal maintenance required? And are any good for the environment?
War on terrorism? or war for oil?
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What renewable energy is cheaper than oil, with minimal maintenance required? And are any good for the environment?
Dessert based solar. As I said it's the cost of the infrastructure. Not the longterm cost.
What like ice cream??
Desert based solar will require little maintenance? So the cables which distribute it around the place wont need much maintenance? the Solar panels and mirrors wont need much maintenance and wont need cleaned 24/7?
And how do you plan to get it to the UK and further North?
Also it is twice the price of coal based electricity.
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You can use solar power to fly jet planes? To make plastics, to make pesticides and all the hundreds of other things oil does?
Not with self cleaning mirrors. Yes the power cables do. But so do oil pipelines, oil tankers and the rest.
No but why do you need one thing that does everything. It's not needed. The solar power can split water that makes hydrogen. To fly planes.
So you acknowledge that there will be no replacement for oil which provides the benefits that oil currently does.
No. I will admit there won't be one single replacement for oil. But as I said it's not needed.
And you could use oil as a downside. Everything in one basket. It's better to split production and energy into several different sources. Whilst maintaining everything oil gives us, without the worrys of supply or shortages. If one area is hit. it won't take everything out.
You talk about lack of civility in the middle east yet you say taking control of other countries is alright. Invading other countries to prevent our own from collapsing is perhaps the most pathetic excuse I've ever heard. It's not lack of oil which will cause society to collapse, it's lack of discipline. This is what happens when you take a resource for granted which is the point I'm trying to make. The US's greed for oil is it's own worst enemy, not the middle east.
But you said it will need minimal maintenance, it wont, the panels and mirrors will need cleaned, and self cleaning only partially works, look at wind farms.
Also i am concerned about the environmental impacts of desert based power, aren't you?
It is minimal maintenance, as you use simple mirrors. Nothing hi tech about that. You can then add layers onto the top of the mirror that will self clean.
So your saying there will be more maintenance than oil production. that needs wells, oil rigs, pipelines, ships ect ect.
No, as there hardly is any. Compared to any other power source.
How on earth can you justify passing on our problems onto another country? Can you justify killing 100,000's of people just to keep your car running and your hair waxed? What gives us the right to do this in the first place?
You make me sick.
A mirror can keep sand off itself?
No i am not a scientist, but i can already see the desert based power plants are going to have a lot of excess waste heat, and return a lot warm/hot water back into the seas, inturn, increasing the sea temperatures. Much the way nuclear power does.
Nuclear power is decades old, and has a thermal efficiency of only about 30%, how much thermal efficiency do you think this new tech will muster? I don't think it will be very high.
And there we go. You obviously need to go read up on it. Because nothing you say there applies. apart from the sand. Which can be solved with automated processes.
No water is returned to the sea. Even if it is like nuclear. It makes no difference other than to local eco systems.
How do you condense the steam? Not using cool water?
So taking water from the desert and not returning it back to the desert (because we all know deserts have an abundance of water) is not going to cause any damage? And the huge steam turbines running at 800 degrees will need minimal maintenance?
no reason you cant use a closed system. The mirrors actually heat oil directly and there's designs to use oil pumps instead of steam as well.
As I said you disbelieve it yet you have no understanding of it. Why don't you go read up on new technology and stop listening to doom mongers.
and maintenance of a steam turbine is more than building an oil rig at deep sea, and maintaining them?
Personally I think desert based solutions are a good idea. Priority should be given to decreasing how much we use in the first place though. I don't understand about the water for nuclear power being put back in the see, aren't cooling towers there for that reason? So it can be recycled?
I think we are doing reasonably well on these fronts. More and more appliances are A rated. normal bulbs being phased out in some countries. A lot more work to do. The thing is to be more energy efficient without losing any of functionality.
I have been reading up on them, i have been reading up on quite a few alternative energy systems and solar one did come up.
I never said that was low maintenance, but i think you underestimate the maintenance of most alternative energy.
Solar based energy systems such as this, are only feasible for countries near the source, since electricity doesn't transport efficiently, then it does leave a problem for countries not near the source of the power.
How are we using less energy when the world population is increasing, and the developing world is sharply increasing its consumption of energy every year?
There is that but electricty use is still going up though isn't it due to expansion? And the fact that there's more and more tech that uses it and we depend on that more and more. Even though efficiences going up, taking it for granted is too and it's that which needs to change. Would be more effective