"Illegal" cars

izoneiz

izoneiz

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Despite the weather being great today and hence having little reason for being angry at the world, I'm really starting to get angry about fuel prices, car taxes, parking charges, blah blah blah give us your cash blah blah green is good, cars are evil blah blah we're Labour and we want to rape the world.

However, (as with one of my recent threads), people with US plates, for example, appear to be exempt from EVERYTHING (apart from fuel of course). Park illegally. No MOTs. No congestion charge or road tax, and yet under certain scenarios (as discussed previously), such cars can legally drive in the UK. I'm going to name cars like this "illegal" (they don't have to be US-registered though).

My question to you is this: what other "illegal" cars are there (not models, but registration-wise) and how do I get one. It's as simple as that.

Remember, if you can't break the rules, bend them.
 
PS, "illegal" cars, as described above, have to be legal to use in the uk from a law point of view (no answers like "heh, go steal one")
 
[TW]Fox;11635529 said:
You don't get one, becuase you are a UK resident.

You benefit from the same 'privilage' if you drive to France.
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But the likely-hood that someone is simply 'driving' from the US and isn't here permanently is slim to none. Why shouldn't cars that use our roads have to meet our safety laws?

(Before you argue we get the same privileges abroad, I think that our cars should meet the legal requirements in other countries too)
 
I dont really understand how you can't understand it?

If you are an American citizen, and you own a car, you can drive it abroad for a set period of time. Your car is registered in your home country. Ditto if you are French, or German, or Polish, or whatever.

This is the same for us - we register our cars in the UK, pay UK taxes etc but if we drive to France we need not pay French road tax, we can't really get French parking tickets and it doesnt matter if we get nicked by a French GATSO.
 
ci_newman said:
But the likely-hood that someone is simply 'driving' from the US and isn't here permanently is slim to none. Why shouldn't cars that use our roads have to meet our safety laws?
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Becuase its unworkable. There is a period of, I think, 6 months, after which time legally the car must be re-registered or leave the country. ok, some people dont bother, but some people rob banks as well, doesn't make it right or a problem with the system.

(Before you argue we get the same privileges abroad, I think that our cars should meet the legal requirements in other countries too)
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So on arrival in Calais, you should pay French road tax and have a French MOT? Are you mad?
 
My question is less about legislation and whether it's wrong or right, but more about how to cheat. If there are people cheating in the UK, and legally, then I don't see why I can't too.

Btw I have no morals
 
Some countries are different Fox - go to switzerland. Even if you want to travel 1 meter on one of their motorways you have to buy a motorway tax thing to slap onto your window. 6 months of tax for 1 day of use - happened to me.
 
ci_newman said:
But the likely-hood that someone is simply 'driving' from the US and isn't here permanently is slim to none. Why shouldn't cars that use our roads have to meet our safety laws?
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they are allowed 6 months. After that they have to register, tax, mot ect. Otherwise it's illegal.
 
izoneiz said:
My question is less about legislation and whether it's wrong or right, but more about how to cheat. If there are people cheating in the UK, and legally, then I don't see why I can't too.
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What they are doing is driving a foreign registered car in another country, and benefiting from not having to pay certain taxes and being able to get away with some offences.

You have this exact same entitlement - you are also able to go abroad and do exactly the same thing.

They cant do this in their home country just as you can't.
 
izoneiz said:
Some countries are different Fox - go to switzerland. Even if you want to travel 1 meter on one of their motorways you have to buy a motorway tax thing to slap onto your window. 6 months of tax for 1 day of use - happened to me.
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That's just a toll like system, note pureley for the Motorways.
 
But why are the cheating ?, its legal to drive a foreign car in the UK for a set period, after that time they have to register them in this country.
Even if its a foreign registered car it still has to be legal so it would still have to have insurance etc.
 
they don't really have any way of checking for foreign insurance though do they, even if they did it owuld be even more difficult to see if they had cover for the UK. Basically they are going to get away with it. It's much easier to nail an uninsured UK driver with a simple ANPR machine so why would they go to the trouble of pulling in a random foreign motorist to the station to ring the other side of the world to see if they have insurance.
 
Clarkey said:
they don't really have any way of checking for foreign insurance though do they, even if they did it owuld be even more difficult to see if they had cover for the UK. Basically they are going to get away with it. It's much easier to nail an uninsured UK driver with a simple ANPR machine so why would they go to the trouble of pulling in a random foreign motorist to the station to ring the other side of the world to see if they have insurance.
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I assume it's a lot easier than that. When you go abroad you get a green insure certificate from the insurance company. I assume that's all police would need to check.
 
Am I the only person who doesnt quite get this thread, or atleast the OPs point?

The cars are registered and taxed and all the other costs for whichever country they are registered in. By having an american registered car in the UK you havent avoided the tax and stuff, because you have paid it in the contry in which it was registered? in relative terms (ignoring the fact tax and other costs vary between countries) the costds are the same. You buy a car, tax it, insure it, MOT it, and then drive it. If the driving happens to be in another contry, so be it...

The only issue is that currently its difficult to prosecute people in a different country to where the car is registered. Expect this to change in the future though with some sort of international numberplate database...

So the card arent illegal, and arent getting away with free tax or anything....
 
well they are getting away with free tax, they don't pay any in this country, and I don't think the US is going to take kindly to the idea of sharing their road tax with us, if they even have road tax that is?
 
Clarkey said:
well they are getting away with free tax, they don't pay any in this country, and I don't think the US is going to take kindly to the idea of sharing their road tax with us, if they even have road tax that is?
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They will have paid there respective taxes for whichever country there car is registered in... so not free. Why should they have to pay again to drive here? you wouldnt expect to if you drove in any other contry?

Why do so many people seem to not be able to grasp this?
 
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