Q6600/Q9450 or E8400/8500? Confused.

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I have been adding bits and pieces to a basket on the parent site, based on relevant posts that come up on here, and one of my major issues (at this stage) is whether to go quad or dual core.

I only use my PC for home office use, internet, and gaming, and have no idea what rendering even is! :o Therefore it does seem that the dual core CPU's may be more suitable for myself at this stage, but I also want my new PC to last me 2-3 years, and a lot of posts allude to the fact that quad core will be the way forward, and that newer games will utilise more cores. As a result I really don't know what direction to go in!

Currently I am considering:

Q6600 (or Q9450 if it's more futureproof)
Abit IX38 Quad GT
Corsair HX520W
4GB Ram-Still not decided which ones, so any pointers would be appreciated.
Samsung Spinpoint F1 500GB
OcUK GeForce 8800GT/GTS/GTX (depends on recommendations).
MS Vista Home Premium 64 Bit

I currently have a 22" monitor which I would like to run at 1680 x 1050 on my games, and I will decide on a CPU cooler, case, and other items once I have my basis sorted. I do want this system to be as quiet as possible.

I appreciate that this is very basic knowledge for most on here, but please could you let me know what you think, as it will be my first ever PC build! :eek:
 
helmutcheese said:
Buy the E8000's CPU or the newer 45nm Quads.

I would not buy a Q6600 today.
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Wrong answer. The new 45NM chips degrade very quickly. This includes the new yorkfield quads and the wolfdales. They dont Overclock as well and have issues regarding temperature measurements.

The best chip on the market for value and future proofing is the Q6600 as nothing uses quads yet anyway ;)
 
Scoobz0511 said:
Wrong answer. The new 45NM chips degrade very quickly. This includes the new yorkfield quads and the wolfdales. They dont Overclock as well and have issues regarding temperature measurements.

The best chip on the market for value and future proofing is the Q6600 as nothing uses quads yet anyway ;)
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You dont have a clue m8, so wrong answer yourself as he never mentioned overclocking.

He also wants it quiet so needs run cool which a Q6600 does not.

Prove the degradion is more so on the 45nm than the 65nm.

If your an idiot and put the same 1.65v through it as a 65nm CPU then it will die sooner rather than later, as its only a 1.2v CPU.
 
helmutcheese said:
You dont have a clue m8, so wrong answer yourself as he never mentioned overclocking.

He also wants it quiet so needs run cool which a Q6600 does not.

Prove the degradion is more so on the 45nm than the 65nm.

If your an idiot and put the same 1.65v through it as a 65nm CPU then it will die sooner rather than later, as its only a 1.2v CPU.
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It has been proven on other forums that i cant link to that degradation is more on 45nm chips. Also the q6600 is a cool chip if you have a good case and cooling. I have put 1.8v through a q6600 that i am stioll using. Its running as good as it ever has . And lets face it who keeps a chip for more than 2 years anyway. I Think you need to do some rersearch mate ;)
 
I still think your clueless and dont visit XS and you need think about how you reply to others posts, not this "wrong answer crap".

By all means post your input to HIM but not towards my post esp when its crap your posting.

At the end of the day you aint helped the OP very much IMO.

You obv dont read very good as he wants 2-3 years out it and listed what he will be using it for and Cooling a Q6000 is not going to be as quiet as he will want.
 
i did read the post from the op thats why i said the q6600 is best at the moment and nothing uses four cores hence my suggestion for tjhe Q6600 as its best bang to buck as dual core is old tech
 
Scoobz0511 said:
i did read the post from the op thats why i said the q6600 is best at the moment and nothing uses four cores hence my suggestion for tjhe Q6600 as its best bang to buck as dual core is old tech
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not much point getting anything other than q6600 atm unless u want epeen and have the money to waste.

StevenG
 
very true but for the money and future proofing i still think the q6600 is theb best around. Ive read a few reviews that say the Q9450 is slightly faster but if u use a Thermalright ultra 120 extreme and the chip is at stock u might even get away with passive cooling or a very slow 120mm fan on it.

I Had a q6600 on a TRUE and it never went above 50 load with a scythe fan on slow
 
StevenG said:
not much point getting anything other than q6600 atm unless u want epeen and have the money to waste.

StevenG
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not so much money to waste more a bad investment

my e8500 stayed in my pc for benching then got sold as there crap so are the new quads

stick with a q6600 you will be better off in the long run
 
Thanks guys. It is interesting to note that there are still conflicting opinions amongst the initiated, as I had thought I was asking a rather simplistic question, and that the schools of thought would be all along the same lines.

It's no wonder it's confusing me then!! :D

BTW. Epeen? No idea, although I'll now search, but from the gist it's expensive. I have in mind a budget of around £800 which I seem to be able to keep to if based around a Q6600 or E8400.

P.S. Helmut, what do you mean by non native?
 
non native means that its 2 dualcores on 1 die. The new 45nm chips arnt like that but for £800 i would get a decent q6600 rig and a very good graphics card
 
Please could someone also tell me the difference between a Q6600 "GO SLACR" and an Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR"? Ta. :confused:
 
I know SLACR GO is the Stepping and its 95watt.

I also know there was a B3/SL9UM" and "G0/SLACR Stepping but assume not in 95watt only 105watts

Both CPU's in that section are the same models, simply they have rated one higher OC'able.
 
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Its simple if you want raw speed get a fast new dual core chip, if you want value for money and more future proof go for q6600, and even if you say you dont want to overclock. Its easy q6600 can be overclocked to 3ghz on same volts as 2.4, no reason not to.

Im running my 3.3ghz q6600 on air at an average of 37-40c at full load it reaches 50-53.

Anyone saying the q6600 isnt cool is crazy :o
 
helmutcheese said:
I know SLACR GO is the Stepping and its 95watt.

I also know there was a B3/SL9UM" and "G0/SLACR Stepping but assume not in 95watt only 105watts

Both CPU's in that section are the same models, simply they have rated one higher OC'able.
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Thats not strictly true mate. The B3 Stepping is not the energy efficient one and runs at 105wt were as the Go Stepping runs at 95wt. The Go Stepping was released as the B3 Was to hot and they redisgned the chip slighty and hence the GO was born . The Go Is also the better clocker


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