Serious Speaker Setup.

Neoni · 9 May 2008 at 15:35

Hello all.

many of you know my music production interests.

Now im looking at speaker setups. and monitor setups, currently i have 2 x KRK VXT8's

http://www.krksys.com/products_vxt8.php

They produce some seriously mindblowing stuff. everything is clear as day, great freq response. and also push out some superb low end to shake the entire house, but i want a subwoofer, dont question i just do!

Been looking at a KRK sub, now i'm just wondering how would i wire a sub up to? would i have to upgrade my pro-tools interface?

Specs of Pro-tools interface:

DIGIDESIGN MBOX 2 PRO FIREWIRE AUDIO MIDI INTERFACE FEATURES

* Mac and PC Pro Tools LE recording, editing, and mixing software.
* Compatible with professional Digidesign Pro Tools HD systems.
* Comprehensive Pro Tools Ignition Pack software and audio tool collection.
* Professional sound quality.
* Powered by FireWire 6-pin connection or included power supply.
* Supports up to 24-bit/96 kHz resolution.
* Supports up to six simultaneous inputs and 8 outputs.
* 4 Analogue inputs: 2 XLR/1/4" TRS combo jacks and 2 1/4" TRS jacks.
* 6 Analogue 1/4" jack outputs.
* 2 Hi-Z guitar, bass, and instrument DI inputs on the front panel.
* 2 Channels of S/PDIF digital I/O on RCA phono.
* Built-in RIAA RCA phono preamp input for direct turntable connection.
* 1 MIDI input and output: 16 channels in/16 channels out.
* MIDI Time Stamping (MTS) support for superior timing and accuracy.
* BNC word clock I/O.
* Low-latency monitoring.
* Dedicated studio monitor outputs with volume control.
* 2 Stereo headphone outputs with independent volume controls.
* +48V phantom power for condenser microphones

the sub in question too is:

http://www.krksys.com/products_v12_series2.php

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Any Idea? im not that good with wiring subwoofers to this sort of setup.

-Neoni

OzZie · 9 May 2008 at 16:02

I've just had a look at the manual on the web page.

Seems the sub uses the main outs from the soundcard, then chained up to the main stereo speakers using its outputs. Therefore you should be able to keep your stereo set up in PT, and all the frequencies that the sub can produce will do so along with the woofer of the VXT8's. Then i believe you should adjust the gain for the acoustics of the room to get a good balance.

Edit:

But the main stereo bus from the mixer is equivalent to your master outputs on your soundcard. The fact that you have extra outputs may also be benificial for other routing purposes.

Neoni · 9 May 2008 at 16:29

OzZie said:
I've just had a look at the manual on the web page.

Seems the sub uses the main outs from the soundcard, then chained up to the main stereo speakers using its outputs. Therefore you should be able to keep your stereo set up in PT, and all the frequencies that the sub can produce will do so along with the woofer of the VXT8's. Then i believe you should adjust the gain for the acoustics of the room to get a good balance.

Edit:

But the main stereo bus from the mixer is equivalent to your master outputs on your soundcard. The fact that you have extra outputs may also be benificial for other routing purposes.

Superb, woofer here you come!

thankyou mate.

ergonomics · 9 May 2008 at 16:32

^ as said above. The subwoofer plugs into your MBOX outs, then the monitors plug into the sub

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Neoni · 9 May 2008 at 16:32

ergonomics said:
^ as said above. The subwoofer plugs into your MBOX outs, then the monitors plug into the sub .

Nice, i just want more bass, i have plenty already but i want the floor to shake when a kick drum is beat.

SexyGreyFox · 10 May 2008 at 17:21

Neoni said:
Nice, i just want more bass, i have plenty already but i want the floor to shake when a kick drum is beat.

This is what you want then :

Neoni · 10 May 2008 at 17:24

dmpoole said:
This is what you want then :

I can produce more bass than that already

how costly for your rig then dm

ergonomics · 11 May 2008 at 01:16

the krk sub would be better i think

maybe if you were comparing to a genelec sub.... maybe...

Caged · 11 May 2008 at 01:25

I gotta question the suggestion of some Mackie PA gear for music production

Neoni · 11 May 2008 at 01:32

Caged said:
I gotta question the suggestion of some Mackie PA gear for music production

Lmao exactly. these KRKs are the business.

Neoni · 11 May 2008 at 01:32

ergonomics said:
the krk sub would be better i think maybe if you were comparing to a genelec sub.... maybe...

genelec subs are really nice, just really expensive.

SexyGreyFox · 11 May 2008 at 09:12

Neoni said:
I
how costly for your rig then dm

£675 for the tops (new)
£410 each for a pair of the subs (shop soiled)
£500 for a pair of subs (secondhand)
£250 for the DBX Driverack which controls Crossoving/EQ/Compression/limiting/Anti feedback etc.

Total : £2,245

I've also just bought a pair of 600 watt 15" fullrange cabs and an amp to drive them for foldback so we can actually have the drums going through them on stage.

Caged said:
I gotta question the suggestion of some Mackie PA gear for music production

It could be a bit overkill.

Neoni · 11 May 2008 at 15:20

dmpoole said:
£675 for the tops (new)
£410 each for a pair of the subs (shop soiled)
£500 for a pair of subs (secondhand)
£250 for the DBX Driverack which controls Crossoving/EQ/Compression/limiting/Anti feedback etc.

Total : £2,245

I've also just bought a pair of 600 watt 15" fullrange cabs and an amp to drive them for foldback so we can actually have the drums going through them on stage.

It could be a bit overkill.

it would sound shocking mixing through them tbh

JBod · 11 May 2008 at 17:38

I only know comedy ones