DDR3 speed vs DDR2

[steve258]

Who cares if it cost £146 last April it's 2008 NOW and 2gb branded kit cost £30, fact. When it drops to the same price next year then it's worth going for.

Oh and bringing up price is not pointless at all it's exactly what OP asked:

I can afford to get DDR3 if it really is faster, but, well.. is it noticably faster (as opposed to just on paper)?

If there's not really any difference I'll save myself the money.

And I was merely pointing out that since you say DDR3 1600 kit at cas 8 is similar to a DDR2 kit at cas 4 then OP should save the money and go DDR2.

I apologise for posting false information about DDR3 now will you drop the attitude please?

 

[helmutcheese]

Listen, just BECAUSE you were WRONG and dont have a clue about DDR3 Timings, DO NOT come back getting Ratty to me.

End of story.

Drop the attitude you say !, your the one with the attitude that needs to get last dig in about some dumb thing like price as you dont like been told your wrong and price was not mentioned by OP or person with comment about Timings.

How about you drop dead !.

 

[james.miller]

helmut its exactly what the op asked. its not dumb if the op specifically asked about it is it? get a grip.

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expect ddr3 prices to drop roughly inline with what we have seen with ddr2. ie it'll be expensive for a while yet. it is, right now, completely pointless. unless you have to have the best.

 

[helmutcheese]

Wrong about /Timings, he admits he is wrong its his "attitude comments that got me"

I also cant be bothered to argue with you once again with your thread policing.

Its a fact what I said above if you do not know how DDR3 Timings work please go and read up on it.

I was not commenting on Post #1, it was the wrong info gave in Post #2 (Timings) that had since been removed.

 

[james.miller]

"I was not commenting on Post #1, it was the wrong info gave in Post #2 (Timings) that had since been removed.". what steve posted in post two may well have been wrong, but whats this attacked him about "some dumb thing like pricing". i dont think you forgot the OP's intentions, did you?

its quite easy to correct people helmut, but you get away with so much aggression when you think you are right on here its untrue. he didnt get ratty with you either - quite the opposite actually. if you find it unfair, you should both RTM and let the mods decide. but it wouldnt be in your favour helum, thats for sure.

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Steve dont worry, what you said about the cost factors is quite true, irrespective of whatever you posted in post #2.

 

[helmutcheese]

I can fix our issue right now simply.

Do not tell me what to do as your as bad as others inc myself at times.

At least 99% of my posts are to try and help peeps and if I see wrong info (why I am also capable of giving) I aint going to shut up, thats why all n00bs now think they own a SATA2 HDD (SATA300).

I know Im aggresive, I cant help it, its only when I get BS comments added like above at the end of his post thats I get mad.

If he did not post that end few words I would not have posted again.

I aint perfect and nor are you so take a leaf out your own book.

Once again cost was not in any of my info, it was ALL about Timings.

 

[james.miller]

its not bs its what the op wanted.

 

[helmutcheese]

Yes and then he gets given info that totally wrong about DDR3 Timings that could then change his opinion on what Mobo/Ram to get, then it gets left unchecked and we end up in the same Situ as the SATA2 HDD one I used as an example.

 

[Reality|Bites]

/me
passes the popcorn around

 

[helmutcheese]

Reality|Bites, please do not stir it m8, there is enough of that in this forum.

Once again James is commenting on something I never did comment on (price), it was all Timings.

Same as the Asus Xonar thread that I said it used Emulated EAX5 (all over web now) and he turned it to me saying that the X-FI had better sound even though I stated about 2-3 times the Asus may have better sound (you can go and read for yourself and see).

I dont mind getting crap for posting something thats wrong, but not for posting something I never actually said.

 

[james.miller]

Yes and then he gets given info that totally wrong about DDR3 Timings that could then change his opinion on what Mobo/Ram to get, then it gets left unchecked and we end up in the same Situ as the SATA2 HDD one I used as an example.

if he had any sense he wouldnt buy the ddr3 board in the first place

its fine to correct people but dont get aggressive especially when steve correctly pointed out the price factor. he said one thing wrong, one thing right. you attacked him for both which is just completely nonsensical and no amout of smiley after "how about you drop dead" is going to disguise your undeserved agression.

Listen, just BECAUSE you were WRONG and dont have a clue about DDR3 Timings, DO NOT come back getting Ratty to me.

End of story.

Drop the attitude you say !, your the one with the attitude that needs to get last dig in about some dumb thing like price as you dont like been told your wrong and price was not mentioned by OP or person with comment about Timings.

How about you drop dead !.

I'll be building a new PC in a few months. I'd like to say that money is no object, and it *almost* is, but within reason. I know that if you're trying to get a sensible amount of performance/cost then DDR2 is the way to go at the moment. Thing is, I can afford to get DDR3 if it really is faster, but, well.. is it noticeably faster (as opposed to just on paper)?

bing bing bing. correct answer: go ddr2 and buy more (a lot more), cheaper ram for the same money, or less. win-win for you. 4gb pc1066 ddr3 = ~£210. 4gb of ddr2 £55 :clap: you could get 8gb and still save £100.


in the meantime, here's some ddr2 vs ddr3 benchmarks on the same motherboard to get stuck in to. instead of replying on us, take a look there to http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/ddr2_vs_ddr3/5.html

Same as the Asus Xonar thread that I said it used Emulated EAX5 (all over web now) and he turned it to me saying that the X-FI had better sound even though I stated about 2-3 times the Asus may have better sound (you can go and read for yourself and see).

oh where do i start with that LOL

 

[helmutcheese]

I gave him back what he gave me are you blind ?.


Quoted : " I apologise for posting false information about DDR3 now will you drop the attitude please?"


Now please stop trying to be a Mod and move on.

 

[Reality|Bites]

ok soz lol

/me
keeps the popcorn to himself

You're all getting none!

 

[james.miller]

deary me. thats not attitude thats asking you to drop yours

reality...may i have some popcorn please? just salted, right? does it get stuck in your teeth too?

 

[Reality|Bites]

oh alright then

 

[james.miller]

om nom nom nom

read that link yet?

The Battle:

DDR3 has arrived, and it is here to stay - and the first DDR3 motherboard we have examined performs well.

Currently, the battle rages all around... and DDR2 is winning more battles than it is losing... but the writing is on the wall. I believe that for the next six months or so, DDR2 will still dominate, but its reign is over.

Once the memory module manufacturers start working their magic, and compete on high speed lower latency DDR3, it will come into its own, and it will dominate the landscape until it is unseated itself by a future contender.

DDR3-1333 is a decent buy; DDR3-1600+ will start to take the performance crown away from DDR2.

Regardless, some things are obvious... both the DDR2 and DDR3 versions of the Asus P5K/P5K3 Deluxe WiFi are excellent boards; and you can't go wrong with high end memory - regardless of it being high end DDR2 or high end DDR3.

Look at your application mix, the benchmark results, and your budget, and make the choice that is right for you.

but look at the price of the pc1600 stuff 2gb for £165. Now, obviously that comparison is a little unfair because they are testing it against some top corsair stuff. but the performance delta over cheaper pc6400 isnt all that huge either. i personally wouldnt spend another £250 or so for 10 more performance. £250 would buy me another 8800gtx. you get the point

 

[helmutcheese]

You do not start anywhere, You a liar full stop so stop making up BS others never even said.

Infact your a totaL Troll and on perm ignore now and this time forver.

 

[Nelly]

I dont understand why you cant be civil about these things, your all mature adults I presume?

Be as snotty, leary, rude, arrogant as you want the moderators seem to turn a blind eye to it anyway, seen it time & time again it gets boring.

Yet do one slight thing wrong in the members market or your sig is over by 1x1 resolution & Davemac & co cant wait to get you banned.

Rules are rules & they should apply to all topics, threads etc, how about dishing some warnings out to repetitive trolling etc.

PS: Im mainly referring to your arrogant/rude attitude helmutcheese as well.

 

[Admiral Huddy]

Some people ought to calm down me thinks

 

[james.miller]

in other news, its a nice day outside and im stuck in waiting for a delivery. again.

for anybody interested, what helmut said about the xonar and eax was that it was 'only' emulated. the problem is, nobody ever argued that point, which i tred to tell him. you can, if you want as he said, go look at the threads and see this for yourself. to think i get called a troll for sticking up for somebody who didnt do anything wrong I quoted him and the op and get called a liar :/

I rtm'd this thread myself because this is unfair on steve there.