Nissan GT-R

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It would seem Steve Sutcliffe from Autocar is another who doubts the numbers Nissan is putting up for the GT-R's best lap around the Ring from reading this week’s magazine, and he has driven one extensively. He also outlines how Nissan made similar claims with the R33, only to be found out that on the laps provided it ran tyres sticky enough to stick it to the side of the Eifel Tower :D

His view is, like mine and others, the numbers are a work of some clever 'tweaks' to the production car and as he has driven both the GT-R and the GT2 he is pretty clear on which would be quickest in standard production form, and it’s not the Nissan. Great car at a seemingly amazing price point but as I have said on this and other forums together with others who have seen this sort of hype from many companies before, let’s wait and see before we claim it to be the new performance Messiah.

I can’t wait to see some independents give it a blast around the Ring to see what type of lap time it is REALLY capable of in production form…….and what BHP it puts out in such form too. I am not denying the car is VERY fast, just trying to add a level of caution to those who are wrapped up in the hype. 7.29 even with super sticky tyres, adjusted geo/bits and big boost, which is where I suspect it was is still an amazing time for something that is so heavy…………well assuming it was that heavy of course! ;)
 
Is the claimed lap time really causing that much of a fuss?

I couldn't care less if the GT-R was capable of time travel, the car just doesn't interest me. It's like having hydraulic robotic legs fitted then asking for applause after you just broke the 100 metres record.
 
Faster, cheaper, better looking and probably more reliable than its said "competitors".

Oh sorry take it all back this car must be crap as it does not wear a German badge.
 
merlin said:
Is the claimed lap time really causing that much of a fuss?

I couldn't care less if the GT-R was capable of time travel, the car just doesn't interest me. It's like having hydraulic robotic legs fitted then asking for applause after you just broke the 100 metres record.
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Agreed, it's totally irrelevant to my buying decision certainly as I won't be trying to match those times in any car I own, so it matters not one jot when compared to how it feels to drive it. My point was more aimed at those with blinkers who take things at face value or feel that anyone who doubts said claims is simply a badge snob.

I am interested in these robot legs you talk about though, I think you have something there!
 
People who decide which car is the best based on baseline figures alone either don't understand what a good sports car actually comprises of, or are from the PS/2 / PS/3 GT generations.

Would be interesting to drive the two, but i'd place money on the GT2 being much more driver involved and fun.
 
While I think it would be excellent for it to be able to produce these times on a stock car, there does seem to be an air of bending the rules. Like you have said, some independant results are needed to either backup or rubbish Nissan's claims.

No matter the amount of jiggery pokery in the GT-R, in my opinion it can't match the feel and instincts of a good driver to extract performance from a car.
 
merlin said:
It's like having hydraulic robotic legs fitted then asking for applause after you just broke the 100 metres record.
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to be honest i would (and do in the case of the GTR) applaud the achievement, insomuch as its very impressive bit of engineering, theres no denying that.

How much of a 'drivers' car is another matter entirely, theres a certain level of fun to be had through driving fast, and another entirely to drive fast through skill :)
 
Agreed it's an astonishing piece of work.

Just a shame most of it is electronic engineering genius, rather than mechanical!
 
I dont understand how everyone is saying that they're not interested in the car because its full of electronics etc.....have any of you even driven one? Of course not, for all you know it could be great fun to drive. Why would anyone want a road car that punishes you anyway? Fair enough on a track, but on an everyday road, a car you can drive fast and easily would be much better
 
Clarkey said:
does pretty much the same that DSC does in the BM's only they don't have the advantage of AWD.
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Not really, look at the advanced 4wd control of the old R34. The GT-R is bound to even better.

DSC only controls brakes. It cannot move power around, even if it could it only has 2 wheels that power the car rather than 4
 
merlin said:
Agreed it's an astonishing piece of work.

Just a shame most of it is electronic engineering genius, rather than mechanical!
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The GTiR had what amounted to the same thing as the Skyline drive train but in a mechanical form but gave it up for what ever reason, I would guess it is more reliable.
 
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