Water Cooling, 2 quick questions.

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Hi Guys.

2 Quick questions.

1. Will a Zalman Reserator XT be enough to cool an Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme Edition QX9770, 2 ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 1024MB and 4 OCZ 1GB PC2-9600 Flex XLC Edition?

2. Does the Zalman ZM-GWB3850/3870 ATI VGA Water Block cover the 3870X2 as well or will I need to look at 1 of the spercific X2 blocks?

Thanx in advance.


Rob...:D
 
Hi Guys.

2 Quick questions.

1. Will a Zalman Reserator XT be enough to cool an Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme Edition QX9770, 2 ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 1024MB and 4 OCZ 1GB PC2-9600 Flex XLC Edition?

2. Does the Zalman ZM-GWB3850/3870 ATI VGA Water Block cover the 3870X2 as well or will I need to look at 1 of the spercific X2 blocks?

Thanx in advance.


Rob...:D

In answer to 1- no way inthe world I'm afraid! That lot will put out around 500 Watts, see

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

As for 2 I really don't know, sorry
 
Thanx guys, i'll have to find a decent water cooling solution then, output is about 500-600w according to the link from Surge.


Rob...:D
 
1) no

2) no

the reserators are ok for stock clocked mid range cpus and gpus when you're looking for total silence and nothing else.

To be honest that setup would need something like a decent set of blocks, a good pump and absolute minimum a thermochill PA120.2 to keep it under control, more likely a PA120.3 but there's nothing to stop you running super quiet undervolted fans on the rad so it would be near enough silent to the point where the PSU was making about as much noise as the watercooling.

I have 2 120.3 rads in my pc so 7 fans in total (3 on each rad and 1 exhaust fan at the back of the case) and to be honest its pretty quiet, the fish tank drowns it out quite easily unless I turn the fans up.
 
I use a Reserator XT to cool my QX9650 @4ghz idle core temps about 30c load temps 50c (but not using the Zalman block). I doubt that it could cope with G/C and ram
 
is that 50c with sustained load in a normally heated environment because that's better than my PA120.3 with fans on with my Q6600 at 3.4ghz, I find that a bit of a streth tbh.
 
is that 50c with sustained load in a normally heated environment because that's better than my PA120.3 with fans on with my Q6600 at 3.4ghz, I find that a bit of a streth tbh.

It depends what you consider a normal temp, I have my computer room at 16-20c. Those temps are after 1-2 hours of HD transcoding or an evening of gaming. Prime doesn't like my mem (even at stock clocks) and gives errors after 2 hours but temps are 55-60C by then. The CPU block is an EK supreme.

The Res XT has got a large surface area to cool with and a large reservoir. The Zalman CPU block is the limiting factor in the package.
 
I'm familiar with the product and the res size makes no difference to temps, I was just suprised by the 50c with no air being pushed past the cooling area which is why I asked about sustained load because it will have a much higher point where it tops out over an actively cooled setup.

Still, fine for just the cpu, must admit I've been tempted to sacrifice some performance in exchange for proper silence.
 
I thought the Res XT was active ie. it has a fan in it. The Res 1 and 2 were completely passive. I have a massively overclocked E8400 (4.45GHz) with a Reserator 1 with the graphics cards and Northbridge too - but it idles at 55 and loads out 80C which is a tad warm. For that reason I have put a PA120.1 in one of the 120mm fan bays and that comes in and out with the PWM CPU fan and that gives me a near silent 60C load temperature.

You are correct in stating that in theory the size of the reservoir makes no diference, but large XSPC/Chiily n Chips/Zalman reservoirs with cooling fins also act as passive radiators which obviously does help as they get larger. The Res XT works in that way, so there is some validity in what was said.
 
You don't have to sacrifice performance for silence - and the Res's were designed for uber hot P4's - so all oc'ed C2D are easy and low voltage C2Q are simple with an improved block. – heck there’s a thread on here with two C2Q in a skulltrail board with a res2 (aka fully passive) cooling both AND the chipset.

It's only when you want silent SLI / Xfire they just can’t cope – and why should they.

When gaming your either wearing headphones or using speakers. So just use aftermarket active aircooling on the cards (S1 or HR-03). When idle they are near silent / or running passive, when gaming run the fan at 7v as it’s not an issue as ambient noise level is 2 or three times higher anyway.

It’s all about the right tool for the job – it doesn’t have to be one complete cooling system – if you think about it most people use active air-cooling on cpu and gpu and passive air cooling on chipset, ram, HDD, etc anyway.
So why should adding a water-cooling loop be any different.

If I did game heavily on the pc I would use the same loop I use now + one or more actively cooled cards – it’s a lower cost, win-win solution.

Just my 2cents worth – as my views are bias towards silence as ambient noise levels in my area at night are extremely low. For most, fan at 7v or 5v are below ambient even at night.

In reply to matt100 - the reservoir is the radiator – aka why Zalman called them reserator – and the q6600 is one hot chip – much hotter that a QX9650.
And as WJA96 said above the Res XT is a hybrid system with a fan massively improving that performance of the four passive rads within the XT.

It’s an overpriced but very underrated bit if kit - Quote from xbit labs

Conclusion -The new liquid cooling system from Zalman is a definite success. For the first time in our tests a liquid cooling system has managed to outperform an air cooler. The Reserator XT was better by 10°C than the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme (with two fans) in my tests. It also won the test of the maximum CPU frequency while being within comfortable limits in terms of noise. Zalman’s progress in designing water-blocks is especially praiseworthy. My tests suggest that the new ZM-WB5 water-block is 7-8°C more efficient than the ZM-WB4 Gold under peak CPU load.

– says it all really, was a [email protected] btw with Scythe Minebea fans also note how the revised blocks make such a big difference as both myself (using a Apogee GT) and Bomag (EK supreme) can confirm.

quad + single card on a XT is do-able with new blocks
quad + twin cards - no
 
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