40"-46" telly suggestions?

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Hi,
After a bit of faffing, the retailer of my telly, a Toshiba 42z3030 has confirmed its knackered.
Unfortunatelly they dont offer the same telly as replacement as its discontinued. :(.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to a replacement?
1080p & 24p are a must, 100hz preferable.

£900 budget.

Thanks in advance all. :).
 
Standard questions.

1 - what will you be using it for mainly ?
2 - distance sat from tv during viewing?

From those we can determine if 1080p is really worth the extra cash [viewing distance dependent]. Plus most tvs have 24fps processing anyway, but that requires some research.
 
Sony W4000

TV of moment just check this review black that match up with new Pannys pretty impressive i would say gets glowing review also and superb feeedback on Avforums.

Calibrated black level on the Sony KDL40W4000 LCD HDTV measured an excellent 0.05 cd/m2, i.e. slightly better than the W3000 series, and on par with the Panasonic PX80/ PZ85 plasmas. To sweeten matters even more, the auto-dimming which plagued the W3000 seemed to have been eradicated on the Sony KDL40W4000... as long as [Adv. Contrast Enhancer] and [Light Sensor] were not engaged.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL40W4000/
 
Sony W4000

TV of moment just check this review black that match up with new Pannys pretty impressive i would say gets glowing review also and superb feeedback on Avforums.



http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL40W4000/

If we believed every review soo much then i would have saved up for my 1k optical and 5k HDMi cable ;)

Still a possibility, but get into a store and compare these sets with user settings printed off from avforums as in-store settings are crap.
 
If we believed every review soo much then i would have saved up for my 1k optical and 5k HDMi cable ;)

Still a possibility, but get into a store and compare these sets with user settings printed off from avforums as in-store settings are crap.

Take it as you wish end of day but HDTV test is reputable review site and has been doing rounds for quite some time now.

The reviews are pretty in depth though and user feedback is very good on Avforums but like you say always good to view with own eyes. :)
 
From those we can determine if 1080p is really worth the extra cash
Its not a new telly, its a replacement for a just failed 1080p set.
So 1080p IS needed.

Sony W4000
The store price matched it to other prices, +£100 from me, and ive got one on order.:D.
Should arrive wednesday. :).



Am i correct in thinking, that if implemented properly, that the 100/120hz feature only affects SD material? I ask because it does make sence, but then it doesnt explain why "I Am Legend" on my 42Z before it failed was significantely smoother with 100hz on?
Im hoping that the PS3 and this W4000 plays nice together, and gives me a nice, crisp, judder free image.
 
No its jsut not for SD material but in most cases on TV's 100HZ feature causes more problems then good and introduce artifacts.

When working its good for stuff like Football etc as it reduces motion blur also for judder in films like you say.

The W4000 does not have it but still does a very good job everyone seems to love it on Avforums. Also settings have been posted up on HDTV test so you can try them out when you receive it see what you think. :)

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL40W4000/Settings

Hope you enjoy purchase. :)
 
The Pioneer Kuro 420XD is the best 42" TV near this price range. It's not 1080p native, it will however accept a 1080p/24 image. It will produce an image better than that of any 1080p 42" TV. Best price right now is around the £1K mark.

I also have an Pioneer LX508D. Obviously out of the price range, but -as a point of comparison- the £1000 720p 420XD produces an image very close (and in some cases better) than that of it's 1080p sibling.

Panasonic plasmas are very good as well, but they come a fairly distant second in terms of image quality, black level, fluid motion, etc.
 
It's not 1080p native, it will however accept a 1080p/24 image. It will produce an image better than that of any 1080p 42" TV
:confused:
Care to explain that one? :p


Will those settings changes make any differences to any possible judders?
 
:confused:
Care to explain that one? :p


Will those settings changes make any differences to any possible judders?

I don't know how the kuro does it, but its internal processing displays the smoothest image I have seen on a blu-ray at 720p. These tvs are a marvel and just get on with puttingthe best picture out there without hyping itself up with, 1080p, 24fps, 100hz, and other processing crap.
 
Without seeing it in person, i'd have to question that.:).

Im just hoping this W4000 doesnt judder. Otherwise it'll be a right faff to send it back.:(.
 
Panasonic plasmas are very good as well, but they come a fairly distant second in terms of image quality, black level, fluid motion, etc.


well you must see something others dont,yes the kuros are probably the best but the pannys are very close and its hard to tell the difference except when it comes to price and the kuros are about £500 more,are you going to pay £500 more for a picture that is about the same
 
It still trails behind the reference-level Pioneer Kuros in terms of black level, colour and video processing, but the gap is closing, which is all the more amazing when you consider that the Panasonic TH42PX80Buy this for £649.00 at certain shop
around £500 cheaper than a similarly-specced Pioneer PDP-4280XD...



from hdtvtest
 
1080p/24 is the content, and output (24Hz). Displays which support this insput display the 24Hz signal at a multiple of it - usually 72Hz, and therefore there is no judder. It's quite seperate from the display resolution, a 720p will still downscale the image.
The Kuro's have several modes depending on the content and will display at 100Hz (also 75Hz).
 
well you must see something others dont,yes the kuros are probably the best but the pannys are very close and its hard to tell the difference except when it comes to price and the kuros are about £500 more,are you going to pay £500 more for a picture that is about the same

Not about the same. The review posted says the gap is closing, but atm it is still a vast gap if you view both sets when correctly calibrated.

Only you can decide if the PQ difference is worth 500, I didn't think so until I compared the pannys Kuro in detail. You can see from my posts which way I swung ;)
 
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