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upper class is people who drive range rover sports because they pick up their children from horse riding and have a nanny.

Nope. it's the aristocracy. You must be titled or royalty. No matter how many properties you develop to allow you to buy Range Rovers to take Trixible to Pony Club, you wont become upper class.
 
[TW]Fox;11773093 said:
Nope. it's the aristocracy. You must be titled or royalty. No matter how many properties you develop to allow you to buy Range Rovers to take Trixible to Pony Club, you wont become upper class.

You just buy an estate and become a Lord, then buy your range rovers and ponies :D
 
[TW]Fox;11773093 said:
Range Rovers to take Trixible to Pony Club, .


My Uncle Sammy has Pony & Traps & Four wheel drives. Are we posh or Gypos :p
 
Ahh right. Well I've only been here 7 months and in that time, I'm the only person out of a block of 30 to have got a new car.

You trend setter you :p


OT - nothing fancy in my street. An 07 plate Corsa is about the newest but then i dont live in a particularly well off neighbourhood :(
 
what about people on the dole/benefits, they just sit back while everyone else works to pay taxes, which in turn are handed to them... that must mean they are middle class
 
Most cars long my street are no more than 5-8 years old. People change their vehicles a lot. Not many people care about badges along my road, but most cars are rather smart and in good nick. In my part of London most people could afford Porsche's etc... but they're just not that type of people really - and most use public transport.
 
[TW]Fox;11773093 said:
Nope. it's the aristocracy. You must be titled or royalty. No matter how many properties you develop to allow you to buy Range Rovers to take Trixible to Pony Club, you wont become upper class.


Such arguments can't really be condensed into a few sentences. The term has evolved over time (and still seems to be). There are more segments that certain socio-economic groups fit into these days.

Eg - Some may perceive very wealthy people with power (not state) as upper class, others perhaps upper-middle. In America I think wealthy people are referred to as upper.
 
Yes it is.

Since when? University educations have, until recently, been reserved for those who could afford it. This has of course changed in the last century or so (being generous) with more people in a position to afford university, but pre-20th century I would argue that the ability to enter university education was often reserved for the wealthier middle sections of society.

That is what the people who actually own every aspect of your life would like you to think. "You can aspire! You can move up a class!" Of course you can...Keeps you out of trouble and working away like a nice little drone.

This depends entirely upon what you base class on. If it's based on wealth, then yes, it is possible to aspire. If your going to base it purely on heritage then of course, no, its not possible. I personally have no real desire to change my class, but then I find it exceedingly difficult to determine which class I'm in.
 
On our street there is a Dodge Ram SRT-10 Quadcab, Ford F150 Lightning, BMW M3, Range Rover (and previously Ferrari 360), and that's just one house. :p

Other than those, pretty much boring cars with the exception of a nice Audi R8 round the corner.
 
None of that here, next door have a pair of Vauxhall Corsa's, next door on the otherside have a People Carrier fairly newish & french but can't remember what it is.

Across the road we have a Clio, 1.4 Astra & Mk3 Mondeo, next to them is an Astra too and on the other side of them a MK1 focus. Theres an E39 BMW across the road but it's unbadged.

On our drive we've got a '97 Peugeot 406, '92 Volvo 940 Estate, '99 Astra Van & an '83 Ford Capri 2.8i.

Nothing too out of the ordinary and it's the same on the entire street.
 
off the top of my head, rhere's a new shape mitsubishe L200 truck, a rover 75, an Audi A2 (next door), an R plate corsa, then next door to my neighbour, i think he works in the car industry as he drives something different every week, currently a BMW 330D estate i think (07 plate), then theres a seat toledo, over the road from them is a Daewoo Matiz, next to them, an MGZR and a ST220 and then next to them a saab convertible so nope, nothing special there
 
For example, we have a family roast dinner on a sunday, we have the family over for a birthday or christmas. Rather than, go to the chip shop on a friday and down the pub with the family to get drunk in a social club for xmas.

Chip shop is thursday (pay day)

I go to the workingmans club christmas and new year but would still consider myself to be middle class
 
Chip shop is thursday (pay day)

I go to the workingmans club christmas and new year but would still consider myself to be middle class

Generally speaking the middle classes don't need to wait until Pay Day before they can visit the fish and chip shop.
 
[TW]Fox;11796396 said:
Generally speaking the middle classes don't need to wait until Pay Day before they can visit the fish and chip shop.

Just thursday is the traditional day, most people i know are monthly paid but thursday is the day when workers got paid in potbanks and i assume other jobs (back in the days of cash pay)
 
Not to point out a huge problem with this statement, but, how can "working class" be "middle ground"?

Working Class
Middle Class
Upper Class

Which one is the middle again?

Working class is the most common though, as merlin has pointed out.

I wouldn't say so, nowadays you get all this middle class scum, boring as you like. Nice people but of absolutely no interest to me.
Sort of people who compete with their neighbours, mow their lawn loads, wash their car loads. Think there is an ideal way to do everything, raise their kids to be as boring as them and wont let them make some decisions.
Don't get me wrong, they're not bad people but they're like having a light salad for dinner, I'd rather sausage, mash and a bit of cake, more nourishing, proper food.

And anyway I'd say there was a lower class, which is council estate scummers. I certainly wouldn't consider them working class because most of them lack a job.

As you earn more and do what you do, you don't make a leap of class, it's how you act.
 
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