Top 5 Footballers of Your Lifetime

BaZ87 said:
You were being serious? :eek:

I though most of the players you mentioned (Veron, Rossi, Pique, Cole and even Stam) went for way over the odds.
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We paid £28 and sold Veron 2 seasons later for £15m, this despite him being fantastic in almost all European matches. We could have sold him for more than that back to Italy, surely?

Rossi went for £7m despite his massive potential. Hell, West Ham paid more for Bellamy IIRC, and Liverpool for Crouch? Rossi has gone to Spain and unsurprisingly done very, very well. He's now worth more than double that £7m (and we're still short on Strikers).

Pique we sold for £4m, we were offered £7m last summer.

Stam we thought we got a good deal on because Ferguson thought he'd lost too much pace through his injury, as it turned out he was great for Milan after Lazio and proved that we could have gotten more.

If any club can make a total ass out of itself it's Man Utd receiving money for people.
 
Not sure i agree. Veron was nothing short of useless in the prem, can't think who'd have paid more than £15m for him in Italy either.

Rossi hadn't proven anything at any half decent level to be worth more than Bellamy and certainly not Crouch.

I thought Pique went for £8m. If it was £4m then fair enough. Stam carried on and done well but what you got for him and considering his age it was an excellent deal.
 
NokkonWud said:
Henry was woeful in his last season, in fact, ever since his injury. When he joined Arsenal he couldn't hit a barn door. I never said Henry wasn't a brilliant player, he was, but he's been surpassed by Ronaldo who has blown away any EPL player.
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Might have something to do with the fact the guy was injured, even when playing. Still, 27 games, 12 goals and 7 assists. Hardly 'woeful' is it? Couldn't hit a barn door at first? Maybe, still scored 26 goals in 48 games in his first season in the Premier League.

Shamikebab said:
I wouldn't say Henry did it consistently.
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Is that some sort of joke?

99-00 - 48 appearences, 26 goals
00-01 - 53 appearences, 22 goals
01-02 - 49 appearences, 32 goals
02-03 - 55 appearences, 36 goals
03-04 - 51 appearences, 39 goals
04-05 - 42 appearences, 30 goals
05-06 - 44 appearences, 33 goals
06-07 - 27 appearences, 12 goals

Now please, PLEASE tell me what being consistent is if that isn't? I'd absolutely love to know.
 
NokkonWud said:
lol, not quite.
It's just the mention of players like Riquelme over some of the fantastic players Man Utd and Arsenal have both had over the last decade.

If you don't think I'm right on at least some of the mentions you're being naive. Whether it be against Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool etc... I know I was probably guilty of it as I could have easily said Henry, Vieira, Bergkamp, Fabregas etc...
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I picked Riquelme and think he is a fantastic player, he done more when I seen him in the flesh than Scholes did when I seen him.

Scholes might have had a better career, doesn't make him a better player.

I toyed with picking players from Milan and Man Utd though as both had a good few players that impressed but it was more spread amongst their teams so none had an amazing individual performance when I seen them.

You - if you are a Man Utd season ticket holder - have no doubt seen more great performances from them than others but this thread is meant to be about performances witnessed and not seen on television or read about in newspapers yeah?
 
Hlebio said:
Is that some sort of joke?

99-00 - 48 appearences, 26 goals
00-01 - 53 appearences, 22 goals
01-02 - 49 appearences, 32 goals
02-03 - 55 appearences, 36 goals
03-04 - 51 appearences, 39 goals
04-05 - 42 appearences, 30 goals
05-06 - 44 appearences, 33 goals
06-07 - 27 appearences, 12 goals
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He had some great seasons no doubt, but he also had some that were less than stellar. I've seen in your posts on her that you're hardly without bias when it comes to your opinions so it doesn't surprise me that you act so insulted when someone suggests that Henry wasn't a footballing god for every moment of his arsenal career.
 
Out of the ones Nokkon mentioned, I think we got more than Veron was worth (especially considering what hes done since), maybe a little less for Stam than he was worth. Rossi and Pique its a bit hard to tell, we'll see over the next 4-5 years how they turn out.
 
Shamikebab said:
He had some great seasons no doubt, but he also had some that were less than stellar. I've seen in your posts on her that you're hardly without bias when it comes to your opinions so it doesn't surprise me that you act so insulted when someone suggests that Henry wasn't a footballing god for every moment of his arsenal career.
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Actually, you'll find that I'm not as in to Henry as your average Arsenal fan. I was glad we sold him, and I think that at times he was arrogant nonce at Arsenal, especially in the latter years. I don't think he's the greatest Arsenal player either, and I didn't include him in my top 5 football players in the other thread, he'd probably only just make my top 10. So don't make accusations without knowing jack.

However, I'll defend against stupidity, and you don't get any more stupid than someone claiming Henry didn't do it consistently in the Premiership. As Nokkonwud said, Henry's job was to score goals and that's what he did, each and every season for Arsenal, and at the same time assisting countless other goals too.
 
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@ Those critising Henry, you're basing your arguements on nothing. I don't think he even had a bad season in the Premiership, in his last season when he struggled with injuries he still managed a good ratio of goals to starts - 10 goals from 16 starts I believe.

From 2003 to about 2006 he was the best player in the world imo, before that he was easily amongst the top few. It's a travesty he was never selected for World player of the Year, especially in 2004 when Ronaldinho wasn't even on the same level as him.

As I said before, I think he's been the best player to grace the Premiership.
 
NokkonWud said:
We paid £28 and sold Veron 2 seasons later for £15m, this despite him being fantastic in almost all European matches. We could have sold him for more than that back to Italy, surely?

Rossi went for £7m despite his massive potential. Hell, West Ham paid more for Bellamy IIRC, and Liverpool for Crouch? Rossi has gone to Spain and unsurprisingly done very, very well. He's now worth more than double that £7m (and we're still short on Strikers).

Pique we sold for £4m, we were offered £7m last summer.
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There are varying amounts for how much Pique has gone for - Ive heard reports of between £4m and £8m - Im sorry I dont think anyone apart from Barca and Utd know the actual amount, paid upfront or in full

I was as annoyed as anyone we didnt give Rossi a chance, but Pique only had a year left on his contract and he had played 10 games or something, not exactly vital to the squad

If he had played 20 games or so I could see that figure being more but he just hadnt proven anything to the team (Im not suggesting he was given much of a chance however)

I think we were lucky to get £15m from Veron considering the waste of space he was in our team, certainly wasnt worth the amount of money we paid (he should have been as he is a brilliant player, just not suited to the Man Utd team - wasnt that great in Europe either from what I remember)

Stam was an embarassment to the club after his revelation about the tapping up - so no doubt he went on the cheap just like Beckham and Van the Man (and Heinze to a lesser extent)

Think we got a decent amount for Richardson and Smith

I respect Henry's ability as a player, but just too moody at times but a true Arsenal player (in good and bad respects)
 
weringo said:
From 2003 to about 2006 he was the best player in the world imo, before that he was easily amongst the top few. It's a travesty he was never selected for World player of the Year, especially in 2004 when Ronaldinho wasn't even on the same level as him.
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It was unsurprising though, he played in England. Beckham had the same thing in '99.
 
weringo said:
Agreed, I wouldn't be surprised if Ronaldo doesn't win it this year, despite the fact he'll probably deserve it.
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Probably? :p.

I know I'm always defensive of the EPL, but from what I've seen from Spain, England and Italy, if I had to pick a shortlist of 3, I can only really think of Ronaldo and Torres who should be up for the award.

There are other players who've done well, Toni for example, but that was in Germany in easily the best team in the country and in the UEFA Cup for example, Messi has been injured, Milan have been poor, no one has stood out head and shoulders over everyone else at Madrid or Barcelona.

It's hard to think of a 3rd really. It's almost like a 1 man selection panel for World Player of the Year, yet because he plays in England I still have this feeling that he'll get pipped by someone.
 
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