Windows, you don't notice it's fast & nippy until you go to a slower one

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Hello,


In the past week I've been fixing/ reinstalling 4 pc's for people, and damn:
Even though I never appreciated my speed, or even my dads pc speeed, other peoples pc's are terrible.

First my neighbor: Pentium IV 2.00 ghz and 256 mb RAM :eek:.
I'm experiencing lag on all fronts, cpu lag, ram shortage etcetc, I needed to remove ads & set up WLAN for it and damn I'm happy I'll never see such a rubbish pc in my own house. Spybot scan took ages and always eated 100% of the cpu, an antivir too ( kaspersky), it just took 100% cpu usage, it didn't even come to hdd lag like I'm used to on fast pc's.
Pentium IV's are Terrible :( !

Then my good mates:
Pentium D 2.8 ghz, 512 mb ram, xp...
Now the cpu isn't a terrible thing, it at least multitasks unlike the p4 rubbish stuff, but the RAM, DAMN, it has norton installed which hogs the resources like mad, browsing is even slower than on mums Pentium 4 1.5 ghz and 1 gb ram ( and nod32 thank god, not some terrible hog)

And another mates 2 pc's:
pc 1: P4 3.06ghz, 1gb ram, VISTA 32 bit :mad:
I've never ever seen vista so slow, it couldn't multi task at all even with HT, every folder took YEARS to open and the ram shortage was BAD. Even a fresh install ( had to reinstall it for him) was much slower than Bloated vista x64 on my own pc...

Then his pc in his own room, a 2.4 ghz p4 with 512 mb ram XP:
Browsing is TERRIBLE, it froze on opening firefox for half a minute, maps.google.com is laggy, it had 100 mb of ram free after bootup, was bloated as hell, even my stripped down pentium 3 600 mhz with 192 mb ram lappy is faster than this pentium 4, so much rubbish and mess is on it...


I can't understand how people are patient enough to work with bloated/ slow/ unclean windows. And why on earth people want vista coz it looks nicer above faster XP on a pc with a p4 3ghz and 1gb of ram is beyond me.
I mean I thought my xp is sometimes slow compared to my reasonably new vista ( although still a bit bloated now), but it's flying compared to the rubbish of other people :mad:.

Perhaps I'm too spoiled with upgrading my pc every 2 months, but how people can stand working with 5 year old pc's and using em like it's a normal pc ( eg install high res apps like norton, live messenger, wmp11, ie7, etc instead of using low res counterparts) is beyond me. It's a museum, not a supercomputer ! Use a slow pc: fine keep it fast by using it sensibly ( high res apps begone, don't even think of vista). But if you want to use it like a normal pc at least upgrade it once a year or two, 5 years is way too much for a PC :(!

A dualcore isn't much, 2gb ram isn't much either, why can't people buy a cheap & nippy upgrade set like an amd x2 3800+ + mobo + 2gb RAM or an E4300+ 2gb + mobo etc is beyond me.
 
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Actually they just have too much OEM crap on there usually. Sometimes lack of RAM doesn't help. I run Windows XP on a Pentium 3 700 with 256MB RAM and a lousy old hard drive, doesn't seem as sluggish as you'd think...
 
My laptop died a few weeks ago due to a water spill my previouse pc was a 3Ghz C2D, 2Gb ram my laptop was a 1.66Ghz CD2 2Gb ram and didn't really notice the difference (Both running vista 32bit) I would have noticed the difference at gaming though :).

While I was waiting for my new laptop to arrive I was using my sisters old computer AMD Barton 3000 2.1Ghz 1Gb ram it ran slow in XP so put a clean copy of vista on and I found it much faster still much slower than a 1.66Ghz CD2 2Gb ram laptop.
 
My inlaws machine is a P2 400, 320 Ram - I feel your pain :(

Though its not as bad as you'd think once its booted and loaded all its services. Just dont try and do anything other than browse the internet.
 
spybot s&d
nod32 trial
pcDecrapifier (select all programs that aren't needed to be uninstalled with that too..)
startuplite
 
First my neighbor: Pentium IV 2.00 ghz and 256 mb RAM :eek:.
....
Pentium IV's are Terrible :( !

Then my good mates:
Pentium D 2.8 ghz, 512 mb ram, xp...
Now the cpu isn't a terrible thing, it at least multitasks unlike the p4 rubbish stuff

Nothing wrong with P4s... hardly surprising that a 100fsb P4 2.0 with only 256 meg of RAM is gonna be a tad sluggish. Oh and some P4 2.0s are the 256K L2 cache variant, making them even worse compared to the ones which followed.

Not sure what you mean about some P4s not multitasking either. I have a P4 and my XP machine with 1 gig of RAM is extremely responsive. Needless to say, all x86 CPUs multitask in Windows...
 
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i couldnt agree any more, yes ive got duel core, lots of ram good graphics on my deskptop, but my laptop is old compared to now and runs so much faster than my mates pc's.
makes me wonder how they can live with such slow n bloated pc's

works pc is the worst and the boss denys its slow, says " its fine for me i dont know what you lot moan about!!!"
i opened start and walked away to put kettle on come back and it was jsut opening.
and if you think im joking i will go video it for you !!!
 
Nothing wrong with P4s... hardly surprising that a 100fsb P4 2.0 with only 256 meg of RAM is gonna be a tad sluggish. Oh and some P4 2.0s are the 256K L2 cache variant, making them even worse compared to the ones which followed.

Not sure what you mean about some P4s not multitasking either. I have a P4 and my XP machine with 1 gig of RAM is extremely responsive. Needless to say, all x86 CPUs multitask in Windows...

Believe me, not with Norton security suite and loads of others.

What I mean with p4's are rubbish, I meant every single core cpu, every time theres 1 app using 100% cpu, you can't do anything else normally and nippy.

Eg spybot running on the 2ghz one= impossible to run kaspersky scan in meantime, either of them freezes almost till the other is done.
 
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The other half's last PC was a P4 2.0GHz, 512MB RAM, and a GF4MX.

It came with XP preinstalled.

First thing I did was to wipe it and put Windows 2000 on. It sped it up massively, and made it a hell of a lot more usable.
 
We shouldn't make sweeping generalisations about hardware: more often than not its inexperienced users allowing all manner of crap to install itself that bogs their systems down.

My new (but low-end) Dell laptop was sluggish until I'd tweaked it and removed all the OEM junk. Its a Celeron/1GB with Vista and its perfectly OK for day to day stuff tbh, though I can't play any new games on it. My desktop is 4 years old and has a 2 year old installation of XP on it and it boots in 30 seconds and feels as fast as any XP installation can be.

I've recently had to fix 2 higher spec laptops with 6 month old installations that were riddled with crap, and a lot slower than mine. I've stopped sorting PC's out for aquaintances as it can be absolute torture.......
 
The guy over at "No, I Will Not Fix Your Computer", that is how I feel. I feel because I work in IT I have better things to do with my time than go home and sit on the computer. I used to do it but not now.
 
At work I have to use a P4 2.9 with 480gb of ram as it has on board graphics so lose 30odd mb :( and using a business system that slows it down even further. Unfortunately, unless it completely dies, I'm stuck with it :(
 
Believe me, not with Norton security suite and loads of others.

What I mean with p4's are rubbish, I meant every single core cpu, every time theres 1 app using 100% cpu, you can't do anything else normally and nippy.

Eg spybot running on the 2ghz one= impossible to run kaspersky scan in meantime, either of them freezes almost till the other is done.

Surely two apps scanning the same hard drive at the same time, will run slowly regardless of CPU?

If you run two CPU intensive tasks on any CPU, they will both get about 50% of the CPU each - you don't need dual core or hyperthreading for that.
 
At work I have to use a P4 2.9 with 480gb of ram as it has on board graphics so lose 30odd mb :( and using a business system that slows it down even further. Unfortunately, unless it completely dies, I'm stuck with it :(

P4 2.9, are you sure? ;)

A lot of these systems would be slow regardless of CPU. If the system is clogged up with crap, if there isn't much RAM, if the HDD is slow etc. then a quad core CPU isn't going to make much difference over a P4, for general system responsiveness and light duties like office apps and web browsing etc.
 
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