New to water...are kits the way forward?

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Well as i have recieved my bonus from work i am looking at things i can treat myself with.

One is the luxury of a water cooling kit for my system.

Spec: 6300 o/c to 3.2ghz
GFX: x1800xt (possible upgrade to 8800gt or similar)

would something like this suffice:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...ooling Kit (Socket 462/478/LGA775/754/939/940)

Or could people spec a better one or similar for the same money / cheaper?

Thanks
 
People will always say that custom building a watercooling setup is better, but I had that kit myself and found it great anyway :)
 
Obviously custom setups are better performers than kits... but kits perform well and are much more convenient... it all depends if you have the inclincation to build it yourself.

Personally after having been on water for a couple of years and then going back to air I much prefer air now... CPU's are cool enough and clock well enough that I don't see water making the difference it used to so. It's a lot of hassle imo.
 
With your spec, I'd say that your money was better spent on new firepower, with some decent air cooling.
 
Personally after having been on water for a couple of years and then going back to air I much prefer air now... CPU's are cool enough and clock well enough that I don't see water making the difference it used to so. It's a lot of hassle imo.
Yep - I sold my kit just recently. Nothing wrong with it, but air cooling has moved on very quickly the last couple of years and the Intel 8400 I have being 45nm runs very cool as well!
 
I've also given up watercooling, its too much hassle, it makes changing hardware a pain, waterblocks sometimes need changing with GFX upgrades, I'm always worried about leaks and I never found it particularly quiet and its expensive.

Highend air gives good results with minimal noise.
 
kits generally aren't the way forwards, with very little effort you can get a good custom setup.. however I would echo the people saying go for some better hardware first, especially the GFX.

I've also given up watercooling, its too much hassle, it makes changing hardware a pain, waterblocks sometimes need changing with GFX upgrades, I'm always worried about leaks and I never found it particularly quiet and its expensive.

Highend air gives good results with minimal noise.

you really must have been doing it wrong mate! Never had a substantial leak and for me its much MUCH quieter than air.. period.

Plus is is pricey but once you've invested in a decent pump, res and rad you don't need to go junking that pretty much ever again!
 
How was he doing it wrong? He said he never had a leak he was only worried about them leaking. It can't be "much" quieter than air as you can now get almost completely silent high-end coolers that provide awesome levels of cooling... the Thermalright IFX-14 performs like a monster with a quiet 120mm fan on it. :)

Watercooling is hassle, period.
 
With motherboards being more of a limiting factor than chips at the moment there's not all that much point in watercooling your CPU. I'm quite happy with my 6320 @ 3.4Ghz with a Scythe Infinity, my system is cool and quiet.

I always found watercooling to be on the noisey side, pump vibration was a pain and I could never 100% bleed my bayres which sloshed around and eventually sprung a leak.

I just like how hassle free air is, don't need to spend an hour fiddling around in my case to change a GFX card. When I was running socket A and S939 (IHS removed) rigs I was always worried about crushing the core with a big heavy waterblock too.
 
Comments from someone who has mostly air cooled but has recently moved to water cooling:

"Watercooling is hassle" - that depends on perspective, and what you want from your computer. It's definitely more hassle than air cooling, but so is building your own PC instead of buying from Dell. If you are looking for bang for buck, then I would agree initially air cooling is a better option. However, If you keep your rad, pump and reservoir for a few upgrades, and overclock your system to lengthen the effective life of your CPU (upgrade 6-12 months later than you would have previously due having obtained a higher overclock) then water cooling can start to seem more financially viable. Well, that's the theory anyway. To be honest, you could spend more on quality fans for your radiator and fancy case lighting than you would a decent CPU heatsink and fan. I won't even talk about the investment of time.

"kits perform well and are much more convenient" - I myself went straight for a custom kit. Personally, I'd question the value of water cooling if you are looking at kits. People generally choose kits because they want a better cooling option but with the ease of air cooling. Forget it. Water cooling, for those who are looking at kits, will be disappointed. There is still some noise, there's more hassle than air cooling and spending hundreds of pounds on water cooling is not going to give you a computer that peforms better if you spent hundreds of pounds intelligently in a different area. Regarding leaks and other problems, well, they don't happen if you do your research and take your time. Both of these factors are not prioritised by those looking at water cooling as an easy option of getting bang for buck, as opposed what you really get (mostly bragging rights, but yes, a quieter system and improved overclocking depending on your setup).

When people initially water cooled (before kits or even customised items) the word 'hassle' never came into it. Yes, they were doing it because they wanted to get more out of their components, but mainly to see what was possible. I have tried water cooling purely to see what was possible for me. I don't think it was worth it performance-wise, but as matt100 says, my next PC will also be water cooled using the same rad, res and pump (the most expensive bits for water cooling if you are going high end, i.e thermochill PA120.3). What I am most likely going to get more of from my water cooled system than if I was to air cool it is pride. That to me is worth a few quid. Just ask those that spend thousands modding their cars. It's not important to everyone, i.e those who see a computer as a tool, but to those whose sad little lives have been touched by the inners of a PC (I admit it!), it's important.

Oh, and for the record, I drive a Ford Focus and don't really care about cars so long as they work.
 
Thanks for the advice, think i may just stick with what i hav at the moment then. I dont think i wll improve the clocks any further, it was more the fact i had money to burn :P

May look into it in the future if i upgrade, however the way pc games are going may need to go to the dark side, none of my m8s play pc any more, so seems a bit of a waste to keep up with the lateset components...sad day...
 
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