Goalie charged
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Doesnt really matter what sentence they give him, it will be nowhere near long enough to remotely reflect the fact hes ruined two lives, and ended two.
1 week cleaning graffiti is my guess
I will do it for you then.
With your track record with regards to motoring offences you should in all honesty wind your neck in.
He has been charged with causing death being dangerous driving the evidence would suggest he is at fault.
I must remember that defence, "I only killed two m'lord."
Based on the charges that the driver is facing?
Seems you are making a snap judgment on the events that happen you know nothing, so you have no right to judge anybody else judgment of events.
Innocent until proven guilty but when some is charged with dangerous driving and drink driving its not looking good, I would judge the father was a safe driver with his 2 sons in the car while the footballer with 3 other adults in the car is not a safe driver.
Haha, give over. I'm making a snap judgement because I think we should wait for the facts before demonising the man?
A motoring offence doesn't make me incapable of forming an opinion.
So let's all throw the facts out the window (they're clearly irrellavent) and execute him, I'm sure that'll please the thronging mob we have here. Being charged with something is very different from being found guilty of it.
Again, I will reiterate that I think we should see the facts first. I happen to think this is a very odd accident, and difficult to attribute to one man. He may be playing the role of scapegoat for it and I'd happen to think that's wrong. But who am I to have concern?
He's probably guilty. But that's it, he's probably. You've all got a ridiculous attitude if you're willing to pass judgement before seeing any evidence.
The footy season has finished so no he wouldnt be hurrying to a game. Theyre all still on holiday for a few weeks yet (before pre season training starts)
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Playing Devils Advocate I know where PMKeates is coming from.
Mr Goalie COULD have been driving very carefully because he knew he was drunk and had no insurance, Mr family man COULD have been the idiot.
The facts are that in this country the drunk driver will be to blame no matter what happens because he shouldn't have been on the road and even though he MAY be a scapegoat, he SHOULD have the book thrown at him.
Mr Goalie COULD have been driving very carefully because he knew he was drunk and had no insurance, Mr family man COULD have been the idiot.
The facts are that in this country the drunk driver will be to blame no matter what happens because he shouldn't have been on the road and even though he MAY be a scapegoat, he SHOULD have the book thrown at him.
LOL - I said I did not follow footie, guess this proves it
The Euros are going on, but thats an entirely different thing. Players are now playing for their country, not their team, and if they dont play for their country, or as in Englands case the country did not qualify, then they are on their summer break.
Honestly, comes to something when a bird has to explain about football
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LOL - I said I did not follow footie, guess this proves it
Don't you live near P**T V**E? - that would explain it.
Ahh! I recall Alan green crying about that a while back - I often have to "follow footie" as I have Radio 5 on in my truck nearly all the time, obviously though 99% of footie related stuff goes in one ear & straight out the other!The Euros are going on, but thats an entirely different thing. Players are now playing for their country, not their team, and if they dont play for their country, or as in Englands case the country did not qualify, then they are on their summer break.
Honestly, comes to something when a bird has to explain about football
'nuff said.
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Dangerous driving charges are notoriously hard to prove, if the CPS didn't think they had compelling evidence then they would have used a lesser charge.
Or perhaps some in the CPS just hates rich chavs and randomly decided to make his life a misery.
Shame... i personally was a friend of Luke when i was younger and also went through school from the age of 4-16 with him too. Never thought he would end up doing something like this
Right now he will be confirming his name and address for the Magistrate and the case will be sent to Crown Court for trial.
I agree with PMKeates to an extent.
It depends how you look at the raw facts...
Newspaper version:
No insurance,
Drunk behind the wheel,
Responsible for killing two young children and putting the Dad in intensive care with a broken neck.
However the actual facts could be:
He thought he had sufficient insurance to be driving the vehicle, however this proved not to be the case. How many times on Cops with Cameras, or Police Camera Action do you see someone driving someone elses vehicle under DOC, where in fact there policy doesn't cover them for this.
It could have been an accident, the arrested footballer could have made a simple mistake, clipping the other car, but due to the speed of the incident, sending the car off the road. The impact from the Range Rover may not of killed the occupants in the other car, the impact from crashing off the road might of. Were the children wearing seat belts? Were they using booster chairs?
It's being banded about that the footballer was drunk behing the wheel, however we all know that one pint of Stella, for example, is enough to be over the drink drive limit. How many people are 'drunk' after one pint of Stella? Being drunk and being over the limit are two different things, but are categorised in the press as one.
Of course, he could fully well be responsible and should be punished, I wouldn't wish the loss of two children on any family. I'm sure the police will work through the evidence and come to a verdict.
It depends how you look at the raw facts...
Newspaper version:
No insurance,
Drunk behind the wheel,
Responsible for killing two young children and putting the Dad in intensive care with a broken neck.
However the actual facts could be:
He thought he had sufficient insurance to be driving the vehicle, however this proved not to be the case. How many times on Cops with Cameras, or Police Camera Action do you see someone driving someone elses vehicle under DOC, where in fact there policy doesn't cover them for this.
It could have been an accident, the arrested footballer could have made a simple mistake, clipping the other car, but due to the speed of the incident, sending the car off the road. The impact from the Range Rover may not of killed the occupants in the other car, the impact from crashing off the road might of. Were the children wearing seat belts? Were they using booster chairs?
It's being banded about that the footballer was drunk behing the wheel, however we all know that one pint of Stella, for example, is enough to be over the drink drive limit. How many people are 'drunk' after one pint of Stella? Being drunk and being over the limit are two different things, but are categorised in the press as one.
Of course, he could fully well be responsible and should be punished, I wouldn't wish the loss of two children on any family. I'm sure the police will work through the evidence and come to a verdict.
Are you for real
He has been charged with Drink Driving. He would have blown over the limit at the roadside and then when he gave his evidential sample he again twice would have blown over the legal limit, they take the lowest reading as the "final" sample.
You do not need to be drunk to commit the offence, the offence is not drunk driving, it is "Driving or being in charge of a motor vehicle with alcohol concentration above prescribed limit"
So sober or drunk has noting to do with it.