mate disappointed with eagle F1's

lol, I was expecting a slating for not knowing the distance then.

Highway code says 75m (excluding thinking time as they will have been stopping fron a line in the test) in the dry. I'd say the difference is going to be ~10%.
 
[TW]Fox;11857353 said:
Actually the difference is quite astonishing - I can't find my copy right now but in one of the Autocar tyre tests the difference in wet braking distance from 70mph between top place tyre (Eagle F1 GS-D3) and the bottom placed tyre (Michelin Pilot Sport) was a staggering 10 metres.
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I wonder just how scientific this test was. How was it carried out, one car, one driver, mash the pedal and let the ABS do it?
 
BigglesPiP said:
lol, I was expecting a slating for not knowing the distance then.

Highway code says 75m (excluding thinking time as they will have been stopping fron a line in the test) in the dry. I'd say the difference is going to be ~10%.
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highway code is also "out of date" really. granted i guess with the crapest tyres 75m might be achievable lol.
 
Clarkey said:
I wonder just how scientific this test was. How was it carried out, one car, one driver, mash the pedal and let the ABS do it?
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I can't remember exactly but it looked pretty sceintific, car in question had loads of measuring stuff fitted to it and it was performed on a dedicated stopping distance testy thingybob. It may even have been automated? Will try and dig it out.

It wasn't two blokes in a carpark.
 
BigglesPiP said:
The saving is rather more than £20, these Pirellis last quite a lot longer, and are quite a lot cheaper to buy. And I reckon the difference in stopping from 30mph is a matter of a few feet.
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Tbh, this is exactly why I buy the best tyres I can afford. If I were to hit someone/something that I might have missed or at least minimised the impact of if I had tyres that would have slowed me down faster, then from a purely fiscal point of view, the saving would not be worth it. Obviously it depends on what you hit, and how hard as to whether the situation can be purely fiscal, but there are more than enough 'think of the children' hippies around as it is...

A case of needing in a couple more feet braking room is more likely to happen in wet conditions, so I always consider the best wet tyre to be the best tyre for every day UK driving. When I last bought tyres, most that had tried both the Falkens and GSD3's seemed to conclude that the Falkens were comparable in the dry, but not in the wet. IIRC a set of 452's would be ~£200 cheaper than the F1's, which is quite extreme, but still wouldn't cover the cost of my excess should I need the extra performance and find myself wanting more.
 
Swapping from Potenzas to FK 452's on my old 728i revealed to me that cheaper tyres don't handle as well and don't last as long......


Fox, keep with the pricier stuff.
 
[TW]Fox;11855615 said:
I'm not about to spend £550 on a set of tyres which may or may not be any good when I can view performance facts about other tyres on paper and make my choice from that :)

Chosing tyres sucks, pretty much. Make the wrong choice and you are stuck with them. Ask the wrong person and you get an uninformed opinion. It's impossible to know how useful the 'advice' you get from others is. Whilst proper tyre tests under controlled conditions are not ideal they are, in my opinion, the best chance we've got of accurately judging between 4-5 different make/models of tyres without testing them all personally.
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I hear what you are saying. I've tried both the F1's and the Falkans (which are on my LCR currently) and like Paradigm I'm pretty impressed by them. I would state though that they aren't as good as the F1's but they are not bad by any means and in the dry they offer excellent grip. The Falkans are no where near as good on my car in the wet though.

I'm kind of wondering though whether its not so much the tyre but the whole setup of a car that affects a persons perception of the quality of a tyre. I mean if a damper is badly worn or some aspect of the geometry isn't right then it may sway opinion on what is good or bad. Thats why I can only say with any certainty what the F1's and Falkans are like ON MY CAR. People may extrapolate from that whether they are good or bad but I can make no such claim when I really think about it!
 
eidolon said:
Not much help but I had Falkens on the CTR when the Bridgestone plastic tyres wore out and they were infinitely better. I never tried any other tyres on that car so I can't compare much more than that I'm afraid.
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what size did you use? I'm not finding any in 205/45/R17.
 
I know it depends on how they're treated, but what's the average mileage for a set of tyres?

My Saxo is still on the original Michelin Pilots - they've done 30k and still have bags of tread on them... must be an uber hard compound. :confused: Saying that, it doesn't really get driven hard.
 
Leeum said:
I know it depends on how they're treated, but what's the average mileage for a set of tyres?

My Saxo is still on the original Michelin Pilots - they've done 30k and still have bags of tread on them... must be an uber hard compound. :confused: Saying that, it doesn't really get driven hard.
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Depends entirely on the car in question, the driving style, and the compound.

My car eats tyres on the rear compared with the front for example, due to being quite powerful and very heavy combined with rear wheel drive. Front drive cars will use tyres much quicker on the front, but the backs will last longer.
 
Leeum said:
I know it depends on how they're treated, but what's the average mileage for a set of tyres?

My Saxo is still on the original Michelin Pilots - they've done 30k and still have bags of tread on them... must be an uber hard compound. :confused: Saying that, it doesn't really get driven hard.
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pilots are uber hard :)

my first car still had original rears at 40k........ :eek:
 
The F1's on my ST170 lasted 4 months on the front, still have the F1's on the back, but had to change the front's, that put me off spending on F1's again due to their lifespan, but its probably the way i drive ;)
 
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