Poll: Poll: Terror vote 'will be very tight'

Do you think that terror suspects should be held for up to 42 days without charge?

  • Yes: Suspects should be held without charge for up to 42days

    Votes: 173 36.3%

  • No: Suspects should have the same rights as any other suspect

    Votes: 186 39.0%

  • It should be kept at up to 28 days.

    Votes: 118 24.7%
  • Total voters
    477

Glaucus

Glaucus

Glaucus

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Yes: Suspects should be held without charge for up to 42day
No: suspects should have the same rights as any other criminal


I really see this as a bad move. Suspects should be released or charged, it makes a mockery of are legal system and is a huge indent into are freedom and way of life.


I'm interested to see how many people think that terror suspects should be held for 42 days without charge. I don't see why anyone should be held for that long, it was a disgrace they got it through in the first place, this extension makes it even worse.

First they came for the Communists,
- but I was not a communist so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists,
- but I was neither, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Jews,
- but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out.
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7446141.stm
Home Office minister Tony McNulty has said the result of Wednesday's crunch vote on extending terror detention to 42 days is looking "very, very tight".

His comments to the BBC came after Cabinet ministers were told "there was still more to do" to win the vote.

Extending pre-charge detention from 28 days is opposed by the Conservatives, Lib Dems and 30 or so Labour MPs.

The result is seen as so close that the result might hinge on how the nine Democratic Unionist Party MPs vote.

To defeat the government, some 33 Labour MPs need to rebel, assuming all other MPs - including those of the DUP - also vote against it.
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The government's falling apart at the seams, just look at how many senior ministers have come and gone in the last 4 years - there are new ones every month now. They won't win this vote.
 
I hope to god it doesn't go through. Really how can anyone think that giving your government the right to keep you in prison for 42 days without any cause or reason, purely at their own disgression is actually a good idea?

**** that. I'm glad I live in a sane country where you can only be kept for 48 hours without a court injunction which still maxes out at 7 days.
 
Voted no, probably to no-ones great surprise who has read any of my posts on the subject.

If you want to take away a persons standard rights then you have to demonstrate a solid reason and nothing I've read has come anywhere close to convincing me that this is necessary. The disadvantages and damage to the principles of our legal system far outweigh the possible benefits.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Being held without charge, thats basically kidnapping imo. It's something we should not have in the UK, either you have broken a law and your charged or you ahven't in which case you should keep your freedom.
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....but you'll only whine when someone who was held for 28 days gets out and blows up a bus.
 
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
....but you'll only whine when someone who was held for 28 days gets out and blows up a bus.
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Only if there's a mistake the police made.
It's absurd that the goverment can remove your rights on a whim for no reason.

Semi-Pro Waster said it better
semi-pro waster said:
If you want to take away a persons standard rights then you have to demonstrate a solid reason and nothing I've read has come anywhere close to convincing me that this is necessary. The disadvantages and damage to the principles of our legal system far outweigh the possible benefits.
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I reckon you should be able to keep people for quite a while, but every week or so, they have to go to some judges and prove why they are holding them and they can then decide if it is right.
 
Wonder if the Government has heard of something called the Magna Carta? From King Johns time up until recent times there has been a 24 hour period to hold and charge a suspect.

Now the Government wants the ability to remove somebody from society and hold them without charge for 42 days.

Something isn't right here.
 
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