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What is the reason for there being such gaps in motorway barriers? Presumably there is some sort of rationale for it - even though I can't imagine what it is. It needs to be a damn good reason doesn't it.
 
I thought you were talking about the guy who killed these kids for a minute there :eek:

He thought he was aswell.

I initially thought the same when i went on BBC earlier, but upon reading the actual report its a different footballer in a Peugeot 307 of all things.
 
Is that from the accident?

Major shunt and typical 4x4 destroying a car.

RIP to those 2 young kids, I hope this guy rots in jail for 10 years then kills himself.

Most of that damage is from the trees it hit before landing on a fence.

JonnyCoupes accident was very similar after a tyre blew out, he went through a gap in the barrier. However he also used the start of the next barrier as a ski jump, luckily into 'softer' foliage
 
I don't endorse drink driving, but nor do I think people guilty of it should be subjected to barbaric torture such as you ridiculously suggest. Clearly he did not set out thinking, I am going to kill two little kids today.

So many don't, but look what happens, people die. Lives get wrecked, and yet people still do it without batting an eyelid.
You take someone elses life your life should mean nothing.

Lock him up and throw away the key, at least 15 years, but they won't because he's got money and he's slightly famous.

It's not about having a rational opinion, this guy is a killer.
 
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So many don't, but look what happens, people die. Lives get wrecked, and yet people still do it without batting an eyelid.
You take someone elses life your life should mean nothing.

Lock him up and throw away the key, at least 15 years, but they won't because he's got money and he's slightly famous.

It's not about having a rational opinion, this guy is a killer.

That is an emotive use of language though isn't it? There is a huge difference between someone who deliberately kills and someone who accidentally kills - whether the latter is through stupidity or not. Any one of us could kill someone while driving and thus be labelled a killer. At the end of the day, the roads are a dangerous place and cars are a potentially lethal weapon.
 
Im not even going to dignify that comment by rising to the bait.

Just think for one minute how you would feel if it was your two children who had been killed by a drunk, uninsured driver at quarter to six in the morning. It can hardly be blamed on the sheer weight of traffic.

what if, youre driving along with your kids in the car, and like 95% of the other drivers on the road youre completely oblivious to everything thats going on around you.

a drunk footballer in a range rover is passing, going a fair bit quicker than you, but being oblivious to everything ont he road, you pull out in front of him as he passes, his huge range rover punts you off the road and your kids die

then whose fault is that?
 
what if, youre driving along with your kids in the car, and like 95% of the other drivers on the road youre completely oblivious to everything thats going on around you.

a drunk footballer in a range rover is passing, going a fair bit quicker than you, but being oblivious to everything ont he road, you pull out in front of him as he passes, his huge range rover punts you off the road and your kids die

then whose fault is that?

Me personally, I wouldnt drive like that but if it did happen, I would still blame the driver who is drunk and who's reaction time to what else is going on on the road around him is slowed down/hindered due to him being drunk.
 
but it happens, there are oblivious drivers out there, but because of the drink driving stigma, the guy in the range rover is the bad guy
 
but it happens, there are oblivious drivers out there, but because of the drink driving stigma, the guy in the range rover is the bad guy

But at the same time you can prove that if he hadnt been drunk he would have avoided the crash.
It works both ways. We shall see in time when the full facts come out in court, but even if I had a meeting with the Queen, I would still not, under any circumstances get behind the wheel of a car if there was ANY CHANCE I might still be under the influence of alcohol.
 
But at the same time you can prove that if he hadnt been drunk he would have avoided the crash.
It works both ways. We shall see in time when the full facts come out in court, but even if I had a meeting with the Queen, I would still not, under any circumstances get behind the wheel of a car if there was ANY CHANCE I might still be under the influence of alcohol.

Aren't you little miss perfect then...

In the real world it doesn't work like that.
 
how can you prove that?

Thats what im saying though none of us can prove it either way

Aren't you little miss perfect then...

In the real world it doesn't work like that.
Nobodies perfect, not even me, I just dont drink and drive, I think its called common sense. And it does work like that because the majority of people do the same.
 
Aren't you little miss perfect then...

In the real world it doesn't work like that.

How does it 'not work like that'? There is no excuse for getting behind the wheel when there is a chance you are over the limit. What possible situation could there be where it's unavoidable to get behind the wheel whilst still over the limit?

Of course it 'works like that', if you are over the limit (or unsure), you shouldn't get behind the wheel of a car, it's that simple.
 
How does it 'not work like that'? There is no excuse for getting behind the wheel when there is a chance you are over the limit. What possible situation could there be where it's unavoidable to get behind the wheel whilst still over the limit?

Of course it 'works like that', if you are over the limit (or unsure), you shouldn't get behind the wheel of a car, it's that simple.

When did I say it was unavoidable? :)

I am saying that people aren't perfect and shouldn't be crucified for being imperfect human beings.
 
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