US man badly injured and left in road

The problem is that if you do something to help and cause extra injury then you are likely to get sued.

For professional medical staff it's part of their oath to help. Yet a first aider now is taught more about the legal implications and what they can't do because of legal grounds (ie they still can't physically touch you - effectively the patient has to bandage themselves under the direction of the firstaider etc).

The individual in the society has wrapped themselves so tightly in legal armour that when they do have a problem they're sat there dying alone.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Exactly that, the bbc should be fined and there right to license fees revoked unless they start doing unbiased news agian.
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Apparantly

"The video was removed from the site because it emerged that the story was in fact misleading. The police department involved in the story subsequently
retracted their comments and BBC News withdrew the video report."

How could video footage of the actual event showing what was happening be misleading?
 
dirtydog said:
You can dial 911 as well as 999 in this country, AFAIK.
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yep, the mrs did this the other day to report a fire in the middle fo the night (was a car up the road) she phoned them gave all the details hung up then went "ooh just realised i dialled 911 but it worked" we had just been watching CSI so had american emergency services on the brain, I still berated her for it though.:D
 
I assume the footage was misleading as along with the video the story is no one at all helped in any way, however this ambulance turns up in minutes...... almost as if someone called for one. So in actual fact it doesn't capture the most important part which was someone making the necessary call.

But the BBC sucks, has sucked for a long time, is fairly useless as a news service and is more intent on looking up to date and hip, than having decent reporters or being unbiased and good anymore.
 
I think American's have become far to paranoid of getting sued, you never know the old man could be a complete **** about it and say the person trying to help him injured him more.
 
Frapple said:
I think American's have become far to paranoid of getting sued, you never know the old man could be a complete **** about it and say the person trying to help him injured him more.
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Its basically impossible to get sued for trying to help, the only people that realistically can be sued within the Good Samaritan law are those who are trained in say CPR, and perform it incorrectly. Which would mostly be doctors and nurses, paramedics using incorrect treatment which is semi fair. A bystander without training trying CPR as best as they can failing won't get in trouble. Its in the UK you can get sued for doing CPR and getting it wrong, even if the guy would have died in the first place. We need the same laws to cover people, there are cases here as already shown where people haven't helped as they could get in trouble. Most other countries are now actively trying to protect people who help, we seem to be one of the few that don't and one of the most litigious countries of late with all the no win no fee type lawsuits for anything going on.
 
Energize said:
Apparantly

"The video was removed from the site because it emerged that the story was in fact misleading. The police department involved in the story subsequently
retracted their comments and BBC News withdrew the video report."

How could video footage of the actual event showing what was happening be misleading?
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I smell a cover up

As for helping someone, I helped an old lady who had fallen down once. (I'm a hero)

As for the guy who got knocked down, I would have been straight on the phone, with car accidents, You don't move the person, It's easy enough to lay down beside the guy and comfort him though, let him know help is on the way, keep him talking and find out if he's in pain. It's also a good idea to make sure he doesn't try to move himself.

I can't believe no one helped the poor guy :(

I hope it's a 1 off incident to be honest
 
wannabedamned said:
I smell a cover up

As for helping someone, I helped an old lady who had fallen down once. (I'm a hero)

As for the guy who got knocked down, I would have been straight on the phone, with car accidents, You don't move the person, It's easy enough to lay down beside the guy and comfort him though, let him know help is on the way, keep him talking and find out if he's in pain. It's also a good idea to make sure he doesn't try to move himself.

I can't believe no one helped the poor guy :(

I hope it's a 1 off incident to be honest
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well someone clearly phoned an ambulance, which was the most effective thing to do, sure people could/should have comforted him but at the end of the day that wouldn't change much. IT will happen many more times tbh. I'm not sure what the guy was like but, what if it was some crack head looking bum who got hit by a car, with blood all over him. COuld you be sure he didn't have aids, would you be the one wanting to hold his hand, or if it was anyone, would you want to hold their hand as they died. It will happen more times and worldwide because sometimes people just can't face up to things. AS mentioned though, its a psychological thing, the more people there are, the less personal responsibility you feel to help as its easier to let someone else help.

I mean, to a certain degree its not dissimilar to when you walk down the street towards someone, first you both step left, then you both step right, so you both stop expecting the other one to choose but neither of you does. Its always easier to wait for the other guy to choose, and once in a while you will wait a silly amount of time before someone moves. If you see what I'm getting at.

I'm not so sure its coverup from the vid being removed, more of, everyone jumping to the wrong conclusions so best not to have the video up. Everyone assumed no one helped at all, the proof of this being incorrect is help turning up, someone called, but because the camera didn't get the guy on the phone the vid appears to say something else.

ALso yes, 10 years ago when mobile phones were new and something happened 50 people would all pull out a phone and call for help. Thats actually a bad thing and people don't do it anymore, one person says they are calling for help, thats enough. Inundating a call centre with hundreds of requests for help to the same place ends up with too large a response which slows the response to other accidents, also it clogs up the call centre and creates confusion. Its good that not every last person whips out their phone to call 999/911 in these situations now, one person needs to do it, one person clearly did.
 
As a diabetic, one my biggest fears is passing-out in the street, and no-one helping me out (leaving me to die). I saw an experiment a few years back, where they got an actor to pretend to pass-out in the middle of a busy street in London, hundreds of people just walked right past him and it took 30 minutes for someone to actually go "help" him.

That could just be London though.

As for the BBC, wretched company, they're not bringing back Red Dwarf because apparently they don't like the sort of people who watch shows of that nature. (They said it to one of the RD creators, can't find the link for it anymore). It was my understanding that we all pay our TV license, so they should make every effort to cater for all tastes.
 
My mum was actually telling me the other day, that her work colleague (a nurse) was having a heart attack in the street on the way to tesco and she asked two people for help and they just walked past and ignored her.

That is even worse than that video.
 
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