Unusual deaths

[miracleboy]

2005: Kenneth Pinyan of Enumclaw, Washington died of acute peritonitis after submitting to anal intercourse with a stallion.

Ouch!

 

[titchard]

But come on whats the chance of say been hit by lightning twice? Its extremely, extremely unlikely, which was my original point.

it is unlikely but not improbable - wouldn't say it was out of reason.

How many people you know have been in more than one car crash, hmm?

You don't say "you crashed AGAIN?! Surely that is improbable!"

Things can repeat themselves.

Rich

 

[titchard]

You can't expect me to have predicted the future and known what you were going to write 2 posts after mine?

It was in response to your original, misguided post.

Obviously I didn't think you could see into the future

I was commenting that heads / tails is 50/50 I didn't go into it talking about consecutive plays, so take your "misguided post" comment elsewhere.

Rich

 

[Hostile_18]

i prob wouldnt have got in another one after the first crash

Statistically shouldn't you be a lot less likely to have another accident after all ready previously having one though lol.

Err no, the chance is still the same...

If I roll a dice and get a 6.
Then I roll another dice, what's the chance of rolling a 6?

Same as the first time 1/6.

Your original post.

 

[Phog]

Ouch!

Mr Hands isn't it?

 

[titchard]

Your original post.

Whos original post?

Rich

 

[therealnerd2]

100 percent serious. So to take it to extremes the odds of getting 6 heads in a row is the same as say 3 heads/3 tails or 2 heads/4 tails? etc etc.

There are two different things here.

Lets say you're going to toss a coin twice.

Before you start, the chances of you getting two heads, is 1/4.

Lets say you roll a head first. Then, the chances of you rolling another head, is 1/2.

How about you play a game where you toss a coin 100 times.

Similarly, the chance that you'll get 100 heads, is (1/2)*(1/2)*...*(1/2) (100 times)

However, if you roll 99 heads, this doesn't affect the chances of you rolling that 100th head. It's still 1/2.

The fact that she was in a helicopter crash earlier in the year, does not change her chances of being in another crash in that year.

 

[milkinc13]

bit off topic but Alexander Litvinenko was killed almost 2 years ago!, how time flies

 

[titchard]

There are two different things here.

Lets say you're going to toss a coin twice.

Before you start, the chances of you getting two heads, is 1/4.

Lets say you roll a head first. Then, the chances of you rolling another head, is 1/2.

How about you play a game where you toss a coin 100 times.

Similarly, the chance that you'll get 100 heads, is (1/2)*(1/2)*...*(1/2) (100 times)

However, if you roll 99 heads, this doesn't affect the chances of you rolling that 100th head. It's still 1/2.

The fact that she was in a helicopter crash earlier in the year, does not change her chances of being in another crash in that year.

Thank you.

Rich

 

[Nebzor]

Obviously I didn't think you could see into the future

I was commenting that heads / tails is 50/50 I didn't go into it talking about consecutive plays, so take your "misguided post" comment elsewhere.

Rich

Are you serious?

the odds of two heads is the same as heads / tails.

they are both 50/50.

Rich

You've even said yourself that the odds of two heads is 1/4, and don't try saying that they would be done separately, otherwise being flipped twice would not matter at all.

 

[CliffyBiro]

There is one way I don't want to die and IMO it's the worst possible way to go....

....faking my own death.

 

[Hostile_18]

Whos original post?

Rich

Oh right sorry.

 

[titchard]

You've even said yourself that the odds of two heads is 1/4, and don't try saying that they would be done separately, otherwise being flipped twice would not matter at all.

Don't try saying what?! Why are you get so hostile about /flipping coins/.

I know what I meant and my second post clarifying what I meant overall - it may not have been worded as I wanted in the first post but I clarified it later on.

Jesus, stop being a douchebag - corrected what I wanted to say in the later post, calm down.

Rich

 

[Hostile_18]

There are two different things here.

Lets say you're going to toss a coin twice.

Before you start, the chances of you getting two heads, is 1/4.

Lets say you roll a head first. Then, the chances of you rolling another head, is 1/2.

How about you play a game where you toss a coin 100 times.

Similarly, the chance that you'll get 100 heads, is (1/2)*(1/2)*...*(1/2) (100 times)

However, if you roll 99 heads, this doesn't affect the chances of you rolling that 100th head. It's still 1/2.

The fact that she was in a helicopter crash earlier in the year, does not change her chances of being in another crash in that year.

Yes it does it makes it a hell of a lot more unlikely. Having one incident and then having the same event occur again are not separate events the fact she was already in one means the chances of her having another one are very slim! She would be incredibly unlucky if you like.

Using that analogy where you don't take into account probability just doesn't work in real life.

 

[Muffin`]

1911: Jack Daniel, founder of the Tennessee whiskey distillery, died of blood poisoning six years after receiving a toe injury when he kicked his safe in anger at being unable to remember its combination

 

[Participant]

Yes it does it makes it a hell of a lot more unlikely. Having one incident and then having the same event occur again are not separate events the fact she was already in one means the chances of her having another one are very slim! She would be incredibly unlucky if you like.

Using that analogy where you don't take into account probability just doesn't work in real life.

NO!

Before either of her crashes, she was 1% likely to have 2 crashes.

Before either of her crashes, she was 10% likely to have 1 crash.

After her first crash, she was still 10% likely to have another crash.

Anyone that's ever studied maths at school knows this; it's pre-GCSE stuff!

 

[p4radox]

Yes it does it makes it a hell of a lot more unlikely. Having one incident and then having the same event occur again are not separate events the fact she was already in one means the chances of her having another one are very slim! She would be incredibly unlucky if you like.

Using that analogy where you don't take into account probability just doesn't work in real life.

Unless she goes out of her way to not get in a helicopter ever again (reducing the risk to 0), the chances of her being the victim of another helicopter crash are still the same. It's just like playing the lottery. Winning once doesn't suddenly make you less likely to win the next time you play. How could it?

It's the same with quite a few of these deaths. People survive one highly improbable incident and then go on to die in a very similar and equally improbable incident. It's got the WOW factor because experiencing the same thing twice is very unfortunate, but that still doesn't mean that the odds change once you survive one such event.

 

[Spike560]

Hostile 17, please look up Gambler's fallacy.

 

[Ben M]

NO!

Before either of her crashes, she was 1% likely to have 2 crashes.

Before either of her crashes, she was 10% likely to have 1 crash.

After her first crash, she was still 10% likely to have another crash.

Anyone that's ever studied maths at school knows this; it's pre-GCSE stuff!

he isn't talking about probability, he's talking about the changes in her piloting as a result of her first crash.

 

[Hostile_18]

NO!

Before either of her crashes, she was 1% likely to have 2 crashes.

Before either of her crashes, she was 10% likely to have 1 crash.

After her first crash, she was still 10% likely to have another crash.

Anyone that's ever studied maths at school knows this; it's pre-GCSE stuff!

Were going round in circles now. I disagree.