The Atomic Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed about 250.000 people and became
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Yes but that didnt leave the land itself destroyed, barren and radioactive and unusable did it?
Life is thriving there in both cities.
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“Naturally I don't necesarily agree with Japan attacking pearl harbour but at least it was a military target..... America responded by decimating two civilian targets.”
As I understand it they were not civilian targets. The sites where chosen due to military value. Those where military city’s full of military targets. Yes civilians where cought in the crossfire but if it wasnt for the military targets those citys wouldnt have been hit.
As I understand it they were not civilian targets. The sites where chosen due to military value. Those where military city’s full of military targets. Yes civilians where cought in the crossfire but if it wasnt for the military targets those citys wouldnt have been hit.
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I dont really know what your saying tbh, at least i hope i dont...
Your ignorance is staggering. As many people has already corrected you earlier on, the nuclear weapons were deployed as a last-resort measure to force the immediate surrender of Japan - otherwise the war would have dragged on, resulting in what would have been an even higher loss of life.
Your moral high horse galloped into the swamp of stupidity and took you with it for a hell of a ride.
It is not correct. But both were tragedies.
Drawing a distinction between the two - and I'm not trying to forgive fire bombing a city here - Dresden was, at the very least, a military target.
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One could say that youve swallowed the offical line hook, line and sinker. Nothings ever as black and white as your making out, and to start insulting other people over an issue that no one here knows the truth about is ridiculous.
Enjoy your report.
I thought both Hiroshima and Nagasaki where still both populated?
edit: yep 1 million people live in Hiroshima alone.
so a force taht is willing to fight to *** death. Very hard to negotiate land and landing points. Hum no I can see how a full on war could have cost less lifes. Don't be so silly. It was the lesser of two evils. In fact if Japan just surrender. There wouldn't of been any fighting.
Rubbish your right, My brain must be on holiday. I was thinking of Chernobyl. Another epic fail.
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Ah nvm, i see the typo now.
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People are living right where the bombs went off, I don't know what he's talking about either. The nukes didn't leave behind radioactive-no-go areas, today they are perfectly fine and safe to live in. The only example of a radioactive no-go area is Chernobyl, and that was a completely different circumstance to nuclear weapons.
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Or how about we surrendered? There wouldnt have been any fighting.
Theres no difference. Who are we in the 'West' to decide to take lives? And to say that our side of any war is more justified than the other side?
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Fair enough, i didnt realise that. I knew people were living there now i just assumed there was some period of years after the bomb went off where it was unsafe.
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Because we where not the ones trying to invade other countrys. What a stupid statement.
Sorry i fail too I meant to quote the barren and unusable guy >.<
Unfortunately that is war - whoever wins, writes history. Nothing is right in war, only that you must achieve whatever needs to be done to win. War is vicious and uncompromising, it is exactly because of the terrible implications and choices of war that everyone tries to avoid it as much as humanely possible.
I think some people in this thread are letting modern politics interfere with their view on history.
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Personally I'd have to say the west was more justified in ww2 especially against the Japanese with their biological warfare and general genocide against the Chinese.
They killed far more civilians than the bombs.
Nah it's only a day or two before it's generally safe enough to go back, but there are effects for staying long term (also the reason why they where air bursts to minimize radiation and maximize flash/blast damage over a larger area), I think tehy have a slightly higher leukemia rate or something.