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This is going to be nuts for Nvidia. 2x 9800GTX+ for lets say £260 then it matches the GTX 280 nearly for £200 less. Erm, does not compute.

The card will be bandwidth limited and still won't beat the 4850 at high resolutions with AA applied, in my semi uninformed opinion. Good value for money though.
Yeah, probably true but would you buy a 4850 if you were running at high resolutions with aa? Probably not.
So for gamers at 1680 x 1050 and below, it's a fairly even battle between the 4850 and 9800GTX.

But as Cyber-Mav and many others point out, they are only interested in single card performance.
. Bad thing is that most people have Intel motherboards with Crossfire capabilities so that seems to me that ATI will become more favourable in this scenario. Single GTX or 4850/70 with the ability to upgrade when you have the cash?. What would you pick?. Even 2x 4850 is going to be way cheaper than GTX280 and not too far from performance. What will two 4870s be like?.Indeed. In guessing thats why it is higher clocked.
Nvidia has **** themselves at the sight of what the 4850 is going to do to their 9800 GTX and 8800 GT / GTS cards so they have hurried up 55nm production and are going to release this thing to counter act the 4850 and also dropping prices at the same time to make them look like better buys.
If I was AMD when this happens I would just say that we actively encourage more overclocking of their cards, and they would do that by putting the max clocks you can get in CCC higher and by adding the ability to overclock the cards shader in it aswell. That will rain on the parade then.![]()
I don't think they've hurried up the transition to 55nm at all. They were already sprinting towards it as fast as they could. It clearly didn't arrive in time for the GT200 launch so they have done what Intel now commonly do and what ATI did as well - take the previous generation, shrink it down, perfect the process and then update the current generation.
This strategy won't be changed because ATI are releasing their new cards.

the GT200s are on a 55nm process
Nope. They were meant to be but they are having technical difficulties so launched them on 65nm for now. 55nm update to come in a few months.


Let me get this straight, Nvidia's relaunching the 9800 GTX, but at higher speeds as they are overclocking them, and also they adding a '+' symbol to the end of its name, so its now going to be known as the 9800 GTX+, thats ******* great.![]()
