Shyness drug could boost confidence
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Of course. But that's not what the article said. The article said that this is a drug that "combats shyness and social awkwardness". It said nothing about "shyness/social anxiety to the point where it severely and negatively effects your life".
It did mention "extreme shyness" (though it did not define the term or provide examples), and I accept that this is a legitimate problem which does require medication in some cases.
I am just wary of the "Prozac culture" which seems to be so prevalent these days.
I don't. Whatever gave you that idea?
No, of course, not. Why would I?
Some people are crippled by their worries of what other people think. If you accept that we treat what we define as abnormal for the other diseases then I don't know why you're so against this one.
I support medication for any serious mental or physical illness. I do not support medication simply for the sake of medication, and I do not support medication for perfectly natural phenomena such as moderate shyness and social awkwardness.
Otherwise we'd be drugging kids from the moment they hit 13 - and who wants that?
Straw man. I am doing no such thing.
My own father was manic depressive, and committed suicide at the age of 41. He had been medicated for most of his adult life. I myself have suffered from clinical depression, and was treated with the anti-depressant Effexor-XR.
So I know from personal experience that psychological disorders can be extremely debilitating, and I find your comments highly insulting.
Or "Ecstasy", as it is more commonly known.
Any drug of this nature and all others that are prescribed do one thing and that is it alters the perception of a brain that already has enough to cope with without all this crap whether it be illegal or Pharmaceutical.
Cavemen never took drugs so why the **** should we ffs.
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Well yes, but I hardly think they'll be handing out these drugs to people that are simply a bit shy.
lol, what kind of an argument is that? Cavemen never took drugs so we shouldn't?
Anyway at the end of the day, everything you do alters your state of mind. Drugs are just another way of doing that, and if it has a postitive impact on someone what is the problem?
It's subliminal thinking. Drugs are there to nurture you into something your brain was not made for in the first place.
You learn with your eyes and ears, not a tablet.
somehow i doubt the confidence in a pill claims - i remember when prozac came out and there was a huge hoo-ha about how it was a happy pill - one pill and your happy - it will solve all societies ills. Of course it was nonsense and prozac is no such thing - but its better than the old antidepressents so its a good thing.
this new drug will help in many mental health areas but i don't like the way the media portray it as something so specific as a 'cure for shyness' which is an over simplification of an extremely complex mechanism in a brain that is still pretty much a mystery.
this new drug will help in many mental health areas but i don't like the way the media portray it as something so specific as a 'cure for shyness' which is an over simplification of an extremely complex mechanism in a brain that is still pretty much a mystery.
I would certainly hope not. But look at what happened with Prozac. One minute it was being touted as a genuine medical treatment; the next minute, people were chugging the stuff like boiled sweets because they could get buckets of it without so much as a blink from their GP.
I fear that this new drug will be massively overprescribed to people who simply don't need it, just like Prozac.
When a drug is publicly announced as a wonder that cures something, whether it be shyness, anxiety, depression etc.... there is always something else within the human mind/body that it supresses.
More times than not, it's the Libido and tbh, a tablet form of 'cure' is just numbing one area and opening another.
I spent 9 years on Seroxat ( 4 of them was coming off the damn stuff ) and will never, NEVER take any form of physiologically mind bending drug again.
There are millions of licensed physiological tablets to every 1 therapist. You do the maths!
It's sad tbh and it's not going to get any better.
More times than not, it's the Libido and tbh, a tablet form of 'cure' is just numbing one area and opening another.
I spent 9 years on Seroxat ( 4 of them was coming off the damn stuff ) and will never, NEVER take any form of physiologically mind bending drug again.
There are millions of licensed physiological tablets to every 1 therapist. You do the maths!
It's sad tbh and it's not going to get any better.
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What? So drugs that say, lift depression. Your brain wasn't made for not being depressed? I don't understand.
You talk about mind bending drugs. I mean ultimately, there is no such thing as a mind that is not bent in some way. There is no such thing as a mind in an entirely objective neutral state, everyone's perception is bent in some way all the time, it's all chemicals.
Regardless of whether you're taking drugs or not, if someone is happy, then of course other aspects of their mind are supressed, otherwise there would be no such thing as happiness. You can't be happy and depressed at the same time. If you didn't supress certain aspects in some way then you'd be in some kind of strange state, I'm not sure what it is, but you definitely wouldn't be at one end of the spectrum such as happiness.
Surely MDMA is just like Ecstasy and causes the flooding of serotonin in the brain - which results in the crash / come down which can be so hard. I don't see how this could be a sustainable medication because you would deplete your serotonin really fast.
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MDMA is ecstasy.
I've just had a classic scenario of which I could have done with some of these...
I work in a graphics studio, was sitting at my desk and a director with a few suits came in. They were getting introduced to everyone and most folk were just saying what they do and showing some work off etc... I instantly started panicing about them coming over to me and having to speak to them, I got major anxiety about it, to a point of me breathing quite quickly, getting all hot - and if they would have spoken to me I would have probably mumbled incoherently and bored them senseless.
I'm sitting here an hour after this and I'm still feeling pretty damn on edge about it, it's a bloody horrible feeling and something thats near enough impossible to control :/.
I know putting myself in situations like that would eventually get me used to it, but I'd find it a little easier if I had something to help me kick start me into it. I could hardly do a line or take a hip flask into work.
Those of you who think this is stupid, obviously haven't experienced it!
I work in a graphics studio, was sitting at my desk and a director with a few suits came in. They were getting introduced to everyone and most folk were just saying what they do and showing some work off etc... I instantly started panicing about them coming over to me and having to speak to them, I got major anxiety about it, to a point of me breathing quite quickly, getting all hot - and if they would have spoken to me I would have probably mumbled incoherently and bored them senseless.
I'm sitting here an hour after this and I'm still feeling pretty damn on edge about it, it's a bloody horrible feeling and something thats near enough impossible to control :/.
I know putting myself in situations like that would eventually get me used to it, but I'd find it a little easier if I had something to help me kick start me into it. I could hardly do a line or take a hip flask into work.
Those of you who think this is stupid, obviously haven't experienced it!