Best turbo for under £2500

Bear · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:17

bigchez said:
And you can fit a dump valve.

That really isnt a positive reason IMO.

Hunders · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:19

Jez said:
Why do we always get loads of replies denying that lag exists, MR2 Turbo's for example (as in the post above) are laggy to the extreme!

I'm not denying that turbo lag exists but if you are in the right gear then lag is not that noticeable. Of course if you are pootling around at 30 in third gear then the lag is massive.

Jez · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:21

Im sorry but that is just not true, at any road speed at any engine speed, the lag on all revisions of MR2 Turbo is very noticable if you compare the response with that from an N/A performance car. The only turbocharged car which i have ever driven which has had near unnoticable lag is the Porsche 911 996 Twin Turbo, and that was still apparent.

bigchez · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:21

Bear said:
That really isnt a positive reason IMO.

I was kidding fella! no DV on my car!!

JEZ said:
Why do we always get loads of replies denying that lag exists, MR2 Turbo's for example (as in the post above) are laggy to the extreme!

Lag or boost threshold? They are 2 different things!

Jez · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:23

bigchez said:
I was kidding fella! no DV on my car!!

Lag or boost threshold? They are 2 different things!

Lag, as i posted.

slothmeister · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:24

sooooo then, i've always had a soft spot for mk4 golfs, 1.8GTi Turbo, or 2.0GTi Turbo?

Or do i look at GT TDi?

Jez · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:25

If you want a turbocharged car for £2500 then go for something japanese. MR2 Turbo is the best car for the money.

Gaverick · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:25

slothmeister said:
...looking for something relatively nippy with a turbo.

[TW]Fox;11990637 said:
306 HDi.

After driving a 306 HDi for a year I can tell you it's anything but nippy. Saying that for £2500 you may manage to buy a 306 and have money left over for a remap which may be more interesting.

DannyW · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:25

save up more and get summat vag 2.0tdi 140ps 6speed its the most amazing engine money can buy

cymatty · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:26

Jez · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:27

DannyW said:
save up more and get summat vag 2.0tdi 140ps 6speed its the most amazing engine money can buy

Is this a new in joke that i have missed?

Bear · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:27

Jez said:
Lag, as i posted.

Never driven an MR2 turbo but Im really surprised to hear the standard turbo having much lag as its a reasonably small unit.

Jez · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:27

cymatty said:
Same enigne as a MR2 but with a more laggy turbo, does not look laggy or peaky to me.

Are you trying to tell me you can plot lag on a graph? :confused:

cymatty · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:28

Jez said:
Are you trying to tell me you can plot lag on a graph?

No but if the enigne had no power then loads and was akward to drive you would be able to see it on a graph.

Bear · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:29

cymatty said:
Same enigne as a MR2 but with a more laggy turbo, does not look laggy or peaky to me.

You cant tell how much lag a car has by looking that that graph

Bear · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:29

cymatty said:
No but if the enigne had no power then loads and was akward to drive you would be able to see it on a graph.

Thats not lag its boost threshold

Jez · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:30

Bear said:
Never driven an MR2 turbo but Im really surprised to hear the standard turbo having much lag as its a reasonably small unit.

Point is that pretty much all normal turbocharged road cars are laggy, it really annoys me that whenever a thread regarding turbocharged cars is posted people constantly seem to deny it exists or tell people that it isnt noticable, because it is. We also get people posting power plots which have absolutely no relevence to the discussion. I actually like turbocharged cars, i am planning to buy another one, but to say they are not noticably laggy is misleading.

cymatty · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:30

Bear said:
You cant tell how much lag a car has by looking that that graph

True but there is a nice smooth power line, meaning you dont have to rev the ass of it to make decent power, making it easy to drive rapidly.

Jez · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:32

cymatty said:
True but there is a nice smooth power line, meaning you dont have to rev the ass of it to make decent power, making it easy to drive rapidly.

And what does this have to do with a discussion about lag?

cymatty · 29 Jun 2008 at 21:34

Jez said:
And what does this have to do with a discussion about lag?

That if you drive the car properly then the lag is minimaf, is you try to accelerate at 1500rpm then there will be lag just as if you try accelerating at 5krpm in a diesel its pretty pointless.

You have to adjust your driving style to suit the power delivery.