PSOne games on HDTV through PS2.....

HeadlessChicken · 2 Jul 2008 at 12:56

I've recently come up against a problem with my new HDTV that I bought for my PS3. I still have a PS2 and have been playing my PS1 games via it. So recently I got a PS3 and new HDTV, and after a few searches it appears new HDTV's won't display the lower input signals of PSone games.

Yes I know I can play PS1 games via the PS3 which upscales it, but the emulation isn't great, especially on FF7, sounds and graphics being distorted.

Anyone found a workaround for the PS2? I have heard rumors that s-video input may solve it? Or am I destined to bad PS3 play or poss emulation on the PC?

james.miller · 2 Jul 2008 at 12:59

pal ps1 games played through a ps2 should be sent out at 576i/p, or 480p. one of those. All of which is mandatory for a hdtv

HeadlessChicken · 2 Jul 2008 at 13:03

james.miller said:
pal ps1 games played through a ps2 should be sent out at 576i/p, or 480p. one of those. All of which is mandatory for a hdtv

Really? Everywhere I have looked seem to think it is 240p.

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james.miller · 2 Jul 2008 at 13:08

oh, why ithe ps2 tries to do that over component i dont know.you have 3 choices then. 1) get a ps1. 2) get an rgb lead for the ps2. 3) get a ps3 lol.

or possibly VGA lead. but i dont know if that would solve it.

HeadlessChicken · 2 Jul 2008 at 13:09

Yeah I know that just says components, but my screen won't show it over composite either. Darned thing!

AWPC · 2 Jul 2008 at 20:45

Some HDTV's do not like certain PS2 component cables. The official Sony one did not work for me on a Samsung 40" HDTV. Yet a cheap well known high street retailers cable worked fine.

My brother has a different size Samsung HDTV and the reverse is true for him as the component cable which did not work for me works for him (both PAL PS2's BTW).

Go figure as I thought that Sony cables were usually the best so you may need to try different makes, think it is something to do with the way your HDTV handles progressive scan inputs as some may default to PAL50 instead of PAL60.

S-Video will be a lot worse PQ.

There are some emulators around which work on the PC so maybe try those as well.

<Dubz> · 3 Jul 2008 at 07:29

Have you tried just disabling the upscaling, you can turn it off on the ps3.

HeadlessChicken · 3 Jul 2008 at 09:43

<De@thW!sh> said:
Have you tried just disabling the upscaling, you can turn it off on the ps3.

It plays via the PS3, just really badly. I tried every option on the scaling and it was still pretty poor. Sounds effects not right, and just broken sprites and other graphical glitches

I've ordered a proper RGB cable (not 1 shop had them in town) to see if it fixs the issue.

Substance · 3 Jul 2008 at 10:07

You shouldnt have any problems on the ps3 tbh, i have played all the way through ff7 on my ps3 and some things look a little stretched when upscaling to full screen but nothing looks/sounds wrong

HeadlessChicken · 3 Jul 2008 at 10:44

SuBsTaNcE said:
You shouldnt have any problems on the ps3 tbh, i have played all the way through ff7 on my ps3 and some things look a little stretched when upscaling to full screen but nothing looks/sounds wrong

It's just little things, like the sounds for magic starting / magic hitting being incorrect, and in battle when the cursor points to an enemy is distorts with blocks behind it, certain colours being off.

I'm half way through a game I've been playing via PS2 on my older LCD which played it fine, so I think that's why I'm noticing more. Just bugs me I can't play it properly via any of my machines at the mo

HeadlessChicken · 4 Jul 2008 at 22:44

A quick update should anyone else get the prob. Got a proper RGB cable today, and the problem is still the same

Boots to the PS2 splash no probs, but just gets no signal when the PS1 game boots

Ah well.

HeadlessChicken · 4 Jul 2008 at 23:33

Just had a proper odd experience.

I also got myself a memory card > USB adaptor, so if the worst happened (which it did) and I couldn't play my half finished FF7 game from my PS2, I could at least port the save over and finish is via the PS3.

So I plug it all in, the PS3 can see the card, great. But when I open it up, all the icons are there, except the FF7 one, in it's place it looks like a spinning load screen? I moan, thinking it's another **** up, so transfer it over to PS3 internal memory card, and boot FF7.

Well it finds the save, but suddenly I'm level 99 and on disk 3? My current game I was about lvl 62 and early on disk 2. So I boot it out of curiosity, and it's my last save from the last time I played FF7, which was over a year ago, and the save file had been well deleted :confused:

It's somehow missed my current save and restored an old one.

Most odd. Anyways, I worked around it by transferring the proper FF7 save from a PS1 memory card onto a PS2 memory card via the PS2 and then porting that to the PS3, which works fine. What a pa lava.

Oh, and the sounds glitching issues seems to disappear on disk 2. oddness.....