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Swordfish

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Quick questions for you.

I have a friend who has a disabled badge and mobility car and parked a within a car park last week. There is no Disabled parkign bays, only 4 visitor bays with a maximum stay of 1 hour signposted (24 inches high). He was conducting business in one with one of the compnaies within the car park area and was longer than one hour. He came out to find a parking ticket for £120 on his car, but this will be reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days.

He wrote to them to appeal on the basis of the disablility badge. The letter was sent Rec Del on Tursday and he received a letter back today staing that the fine stands and pay within 10 days or the price will be £120.

My questions are :

1) Are copmpanies legally obliged to proved a minimum number of disabled parking bays?

2) It is claimed on singposts that should the fine not be paid then the company will contact the DVLA and get the owners names and addres. Does this not break the Data Protection Act ?

3) Any ideas how to resolve this. All he has is his disability income and nothing else.
 
1. No but most will grudgingly do so.

2. The Data Protection Act covers the individual from improper use of certain data. The DVLA can and will provide assistance to authorities wishing to pursue legally enforceable motoring matters.

3. The resolution is to either pay or not pay and take it further on the slim chance that they'll remove the charge. Your friend stayed longer than he was permitted to and I don't believe that the disability changes anything (in their eyes).
 
Well, he was in a parking bay longer than he was supposed to be - the fact that he had a disabled badge is irrelevant.

As to whether they're obliged to put disabled parking spots, I don't know. I'm pretty sure they have to provide a means of access to the building(s) for the disabled, but parking, I don't know.
 
Forgot to mentio this is under Scots Law, the disability badge gives parking without limit of time as opposed ot the 3 hours (i think) in England & Wales.

"heh, gotta love ocuk

He could have been in there buying a scooter for all we know, that is still "conducting business".

Cheers for the above
 
Swordfish said:
Forgot to mentio this is under Scots Law, the disability badge gives parking without limit of time
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If this is correct then you have your solution. I believe, and I'm no lawyer mind, that private property may overide the general law. Hope your mate gets it fixed; parking charges are a true PITA.
 
I've just lodged an officila complaint with the council here regarding the fact that there are no disabled parking bays in the car park yet, people are expected to park there and conduct business. So it would appear for a disabled person to deal any compaines in the complex they would need to park on the street and walk 700 yards or so the start of the compaines store fronts.

Beggars belief.
 
I am sure somebody (hey it's OCUK after all) will come along and correct me but unless explicitly stated otherwise by legal signage and the user doesn't cause an obstruction a orange nee blue badge holder can park most places (inc double yellows) for up to three hours.

Doesn't cover private land but if the car park is council owned they should be good on appeal.
 
LordSplodge said:
I am sure somebody (hey it's OCUK after all) will come along and correct me but unless explicitly stated otherwise by legal signage and the user doesn't cause an obstruction a orange nee blue badge holder can park most places (inc double yellows) for up to three hours.

Doesn't cover private land but if the car park is council owned they should be good on appeal.
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Private land. Even the people who own the buildings, have to buty a permit to park outside them.
 
dont pay it. i got a local parking fine and didnt pay it they can not force your payment unless its a propper traffic warden or a police officer
the only way a private land owner can make you pay a fine is to clamp you and charge a removal fee
 
Swordfish said:
Forgot to mentio this is under Scots Law, the disability badge gives parking without limit of time as opposed ot the 3 hours (i think) in England & Wales.

Cheers for the above
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No idea regarding that law but...

Swordfish said:
Quick questions for you.

I have a friend who has a disabled badge and mobility car and parked a within a car park last week. There is no Disabled parkign bays, only 4 visitor bays with a maximum stay of 1 hour signposted (24 inches high). He was conducting business in one with one of the compnaies within the car park area and was longer than one hour. He came out to find a parking ticket for £120 on his car, but this will be reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days.

He wrote to them to appeal on the basis of the disablility badge. The letter was sent Rec Del on Tursday and he received a letter back today staing that the fine stands and pay within 10 days or the price will be £120.

My questions are :

1) Are copmpanies legally obliged to proved a minimum number of disabled parking bays?

2) It is claimed on singposts that should the fine not be paid then the company will contact the DVLA and get the owners names and addres. Does this not break the Data Protection Act ?

3) Any ideas how to resolve this. All he has is his disability income and nothing else.
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With regards to 2, yes, the PPC/council can do so.

3. The fact that he has sent a letter already may have compromised him already but when parking, the driver is the one liable to charges. However, when the ppc/council get the info from the dvla, they get the details of the registered keeper. Driver at the time may not be the registered keeper ;).

Therefore, in such a case, when the ppc/council send you the letter informing of the charge, you can simply say that yes, you are the registered keeper but that the letter should be addressed to the driver. And of course, they won't have any evidence of who was parking at the time. It won't go to court, as of course, they wouldn't know whom to charge. It is strictly speaking not the truth and morally debatable, but there are no lies either. If ppc/councils can sometimes get pedantic/a***y, then so can you.
 
Play the sympathy card. Call the Daily Mail and tell them an immigrant Jew parked across all the disabled spaces causing your white cripple friend to be fined.
 
DB_SamX said:
No idea regarding that law but...



With regards to 2, yes, the PPC/council can do so.

3. The fact that he has sent a letter already may have compromised him already but when parking, the driver is the one liable to charges. However, when the ppc/council get the info from the dvla, they get the details of the registered keeper. Driver at the time may not be the registered keeper ;).

Therefore, in such a case, when the ppc/council send you the letter informing of the charge, you can simply say that yes, you are the registered keeper but that the letter should be addressed to the driver. And of course, they won't have any evidence of who was parking at the time. It won't go to court, as of course, they wouldn't know whom to charge. It is strictly speaking not the truth and morally debatable, but there are no lies either. If ppc/councils can sometimes get pedantic/a***y, then so can you.
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You mean claim someone else was driving at the time? A bare-faced like - I LIKE IT.

Just think the way this country is going with parking and fuel costs etc it's better to walk everywhere. We are starting to become a hugely overtaxed nation in all forms. But at least pringles are not going up in price as they dont fall under the banner of crips and are VAT free.

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You gotta laugh !!!
 
Swordfish said:
You mean claim someone else was driving at the time? A bare-faced like - I LIKE IT.
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No, I don't condone lying to them. A letter just has to say: Please address this letter to the driver of the car. I am the registered keeper. If you have any evidence that I was also the driver at the time, please provide it to me."

You could have been the driver as well, but they don't know this and you are not lying. Remember that a car can belong to one person but have 2/3 people insured to drive it.

 
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DB_SamX said:
No, I don't condone lying to them. A letter just has to say: Please address this letter to the driver of the car. I am the registered keeper. If you have any evidence that I was also the driver at the time, please provide it to me."

You could have been the driver as well, but they don't know this and you are not lying. Remember that a car can belong to one person but have 2/3 people insured to drive it.
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I like your carefully chosen words. Good work :)
 
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