Your right in the uk it isnt illegal. It is in france, germany, austria and various other european countries.
Rybo89 until theres hard evidence of any kind of explosion your argument is flawed
Conspiracy Files: The Third Tower
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Your right in the uk it isnt illegal. It is in france, germany, austria and various other european countries.
Rybo89 until theres hard evidence of any kind of explosion your argument is flawed
I can't believe this thread has carried on for this many pages. You'd ordinarily assume that computer enthusiasts would have a reasonable level of intelligence yet judging by this thread we've got some genuine tin foil hat wearing simpletons amongst the OCUK community.
Wait until you meet the ones who admitted to believing in sentient space reptiles.
I never said they shouldn't be able to, just that people should continue to argue against the nonsense.
No i'm not, the fact you failed to elaborate on why you think I'm wrong speaks volumes. You can have a million observations that fit a theory perfectly, but you have one observation that the theory can't explain then the theory is either wrong, incomplete or you didn't observe it correctly.
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I feel sorry for the Muslim terrorists and Al Queda who claim this was their greatest victory against the West.
That's a great thought.
Can you imagine all the terrorist types finding out that loads of people really believed that the government were responsible for the attack! They'll never understand it.
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Please keep in mind one thing; who has benefited more from this attack? Al Qaeda or the US government?
Al Qaeda:
Known globally
Killed 3000 innocents (why didn't they target those in power?)
US Gov:
secured oil and the US's future
massive arms/war contracts
they are now the 'victim' and could justify war (illegally)
foothold in the middle east
got to declare a 'war on terror', but no one specific. How wonderful for them.
Were able to pass previously impassable laws in the US.
The list goes on.
Al Qaeda:
Known globally
Killed 3000 innocents (why didn't they target those in power?)
US Gov:
secured oil and the US's future
massive arms/war contracts
they are now the 'victim' and could justify war (illegally)
foothold in the middle east
got to declare a 'war on terror', but no one specific. How wonderful for them.
Were able to pass previously impassable laws in the US.
The list goes on.
What does that have to do with it?
We can prove the towers fell due to the planes, that a plane hit the pentagon. That it wasn't demo charges or missiles.
Why didn't the 7/7 bombers target people in power? Because that's what terrorist do. They target civilians to instil fear that anyone could be a target.
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That's precisely why, in my opinion, the US Government allowed the attack to take place.
How much further they were behind it is anyone's guess, but largely irrelevant.
I think the government definitely used the attack to their advantage but not sure that the advantages would be great enough for them to allow the attack in the first place...
IMO they did target the people in power, they went after the Pentagon and the financial district. It's not like they flew the planes into a school or village etc (although not sure that I would put this past them).
Also I would guess that one of their aims would have been to show the American people that they were not untouchable and to try and get them to live in fear. I'd say that one way or another they've succeeded in this.
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I'm interested in how the war has changed their control over the oil? Have they ceased the land etc? Was anyone previously refusing to sell their oil to the US? I'm genuinely curious as I always hear this claim but I don't really see what changed. Also I don't believe that the government needed to stage 9/11 as a pretext to the war. I'm pretty sure that if GW went on TV and said 'we're going to war with x country because they're evil' that they'd have enough support to do it.
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This is a good point in that motive needs to be considered
the fact is that the US version of events has so many holes in it that it resembles swiss cheese
And the 'conspiracy' version needs further investigation but the US authorities have not been cooperative and a veil has descended
we don't know, but i cannot trust the people who said there were WMD in Iraq, the US government has a long history of telling porkies to the public
psychologically, it may be difficult for Americans to think that their own government could do this but it may have
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I really can't believe they didn't plant some weapons in Iraq, it would have justified their actions and probably removed the majority of the criticism. All it would have taken would have been a few canisters of some nasty chemical/dirty bomb...
If they organised 9/11, then surely they would have set up a whole nuclear weapons factory to be discovered in Iraq. Unless it's some kind of double bluff...
Or you could belief the report that highlights numerous errors in communication and lack of procedures and also lack of procedural error. Basically know one knew what to do and numerous people fluffed up.
What would the fighters of done? It is highly unlikely they would have shot passenger planes down. As 9/11 was a first.
If it was a conspiracy and it wasnt Al'Quieda (sp?) then whos to say the only culprate left is the US Government? There are plenty secret groups out there with large money and power that hide in secrecy why is no one pointing fingers at them?
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I doubt they don't have procedures in place, granted they wouldn't know what the outcome of that plane will be, but they know it's hijacked but Muslim so either kidnapping or suicide.
After all they must have countless meetings, drills and procedures to follow. And not doing it "as they go along"