Conspiracy Files: The Third Tower

Just saw you edited your post. You could dream up any situation ever. Do you want the world to live in a bubble, tracked 24/7 with someone watching your every move?

I'm not sure what you expected the US to do really with the intel they had before 9/11.

Like I said, it's hardly 'out there' in terms of probability of happening is it. Hijackings of planes have happened many times.

I don't want the bubble scenario, no, but I'm sure there are certain governments out there that do!
 
Just saw you edited your post. You could dream up any situation ever. Do you want the world to live in a bubble, tracked 24/7 with someone watching your every move?

I'm not sure what you expected the US to do really with the intel they had before 9/11.

Just because they have protocols doesn't mean it effects the every day lives of people.
 
Just because they have protocols doesn't mean it effects the every day lives of people.

and not every scenario can be planned for. There's literally millions of scenarios. Do you really believe everyone has a protocol?

Most of these drills in London for chemical/dirty bombs have only come after 9/11 when everyone steeped up there security and procedures.
 
I think all the conspiracy theorists in this thread are only here to publicize their credentials as paranoid nutters so they can get jobs as security analysts at the Pentagon: "I would have certainly have conceived the possibility of a terrorist using a hijacked plane as a weapon! And here is the emergency response procedure I would have followed..."

Well, someone thought of it before!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Gunmen_(TV_series)

"Foreshadowing the September 11, 2001 attacks, the plot of the March 4, 2001 pilot episode of the series depicts a secret U.S. government agency plotting to crash a Boeing 727 headed for Boston into the World Trade Center via remote control for the purpose of increasing the military defense budget and blaming the attack on foreign "tin-pot dictators" who are "begging to be smart-bombed." This episode was broadcast in Australia on August 30, less than two weeks before the 9/11 attacks.[3]"
 
I think all the conspiracy theorists in this thread are only here to publicize their credentials as paranoid nutters so they can get jobs as security analysts at the Pentagon: "I would have certainly have conceived the possibility of a terrorist using a hijacked plane as a weapon! And here is the emergency response procedure I would have followed..."

Then they would have produced a second dossier saying "...and here is the emergency response procedure I would have followed if the US government had secretly planted demolition charges in every skyscraper in Manhattan and orchestrated for someone to fly a plane into them to look like it was terrorists..." :p

Ah way of making your own opinion is to discedit others. You're no better than the rabid CT themselves dismissing everything else.:rolleyes:

Is it that had to believe the 20,000 employees in the US didn't think of ANY muslim suicide attacks on native soil?
 
did you all miss this?
On 9/11 there were only 14 fighter jets on alert in the contiguous 48 states. No computer network or alarm automatically alerted the North American Air Defense Command (NORAD) of missing planes. "They [civilian Air Traffic Control, or ATC] had to pick up the phone and literally dial us," says Maj. Douglas Martin, public affairs officer for NORAD. Boston Center, one of 22 Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regional ATC facilities, called NORAD's Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) three times: at 8:37 am EST to inform NEADS that Flight 11 was hijacked; at 9:21 am to inform the agency, mistakenly, that Flight 11 was headed for Washington (the plane had hit the North Tower 35 minutes earlier); and at 9:41 am to (erroneously) identify Delta Air Lines Flight 1989 from Boston as a possible hijacking. The New York ATC called NEADS at 9:03 am to report that United Flight 175 had been hijacked — the same time the plane slammed into the South Tower. Within minutes of that first call from Boston Center, NEADS scrambled two F-15s from Otis Air Force Base in Falmouth, Mass., and three F-16s from Langley Air National Guard Base in Hampton, Va. None of the fighters got anywhere near the pirated planes.

Why couldn't ATC find the hijacked flights? When the hijackers turned off the planes' transponders, which broadcast identifying signals, ATC had to search 4500 identical radar blips crisscrossing some of the country's busiest air corridors. And NORAD's sophisticated radar? It ringed the continent, looking outward for threats, not inward. "It was like a doughnut," Martin says. "There was no coverage in the middle." Pre-9/11, flights originating in the States were not seen as threats and NORAD wasn't prepared to track them.
 
and not every scenario can be planned for. There's literally millions of scenarios. Do you really believe everyone has a protocol?

Don't exaggerate. By saying there's 'literally millions of scenarios' would suggest you could list them all, otherwise there's nothing 'literal' about it.

There are lots, don't get me wrong, and it's why they pay people to draw up the scenarios and how to respond.
 
Of course it's not, but it's something they consider if the plane they are scrambled to intercept doesn't comply.
Sorry, I edited it late but...

They were actually going to shoot down Flight 93 once they got to grips with what was happening, and saw that Flight 93 had changed course. Obviously the official story is that the passengers attacked the hijackers and the plane crashed, but CT types say that the government shot it down.

So either way the government can't win with you lot. You complain if they didn't shoot planes down and you complain if they might have shot planes down, you're just always looking for the next drama.

Edit: Found source for them planning to shoot it down here.
 
So what are YOU suggesting the US should have done before 9/11, that wouldn't of effected the daily lives of citizens?

I don't need to suggest anything, it's not my job and I'm not qualified to ask that question. But I'm not naive enough to not think that a enemy of the US will plan X Y or Z attacks on native soil, or abroad. With current tactics of terrorists you can have meetings with groups of people and divise a plan. Not exactly that difficult.

I've done programming, if I were to look from the other side- "How would I break into this software" and make it more secure, find out weak points etc.
 
So either way the government can't win with you lot. You complain if they didn't shoot planes down and you complain if they might have shot planes down, you're just always looking for the next drama.

I beg your pardon. Us lot?

Our views and opinions are no less valid than yours thanks.

I've not complained, merely stated that nothing (very little! not enough!) was done to stop the planes.
 
3rd time lucky maybe

On 9/11 there were only 14 fighter jets on alert in the contiguous 48 states. No computer network or alarm automatically alerted the North American Air Defense Command (NORAD) of missing planes. "They [civilian Air Traffic Control, or ATC] had to pick up the phone and literally dial us," says Maj. Douglas Martin, public affairs officer for NORAD. Boston Center, one of 22 Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regional ATC facilities, called NORAD's Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) three times: at 8:37 am EST to inform NEADS that Flight 11 was hijacked; at 9:21 am to inform the agency, mistakenly, that Flight 11 was headed for Washington (the plane had hit the North Tower 35 minutes earlier); and at 9:41 am to (erroneously) identify Delta Air Lines Flight 1989 from Boston as a possible hijacking. The New York ATC called NEADS at 9:03 am to report that United Flight 175 had been hijacked — the same time the plane slammed into the South Tower. Within minutes of that first call from Boston Center, NEADS scrambled two F-15s from Otis Air Force Base in Falmouth, Mass., and three F-16s from Langley Air National Guard Base in Hampton, Va. None of the fighters got anywhere near the pirated planes.

Why couldn't ATC find the hijacked flights? When the hijackers turned off the planes' transponders, which broadcast identifying signals, ATC had to search 4500 identical radar blips crisscrossing some of the country's busiest air corridors. And NORAD's sophisticated radar? It ringed the continent, looking outward for threats, not inward. "It was like a doughnut," Martin says. "There was no coverage in the middle." Pre-9/11, flights originating in the States were not seen as threats and NORAD wasn't prepared to track them.
 
Let me guess, Chris Carter has since disappeared, encrypted communications by him from an unknown location periodically appearing on the internet. These have been decrypted by X-files fans to reveal that Carter is on the run from the CIA. The script for his new X-files movie ha also been communicated to his fans through these encrypted communications, piecemeal, to be decrypted and reconstructed on CT forums, members of which subsequently raised all the funding for the film's production themselves!:)
 
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