Blatter is a tool

drunkenmaster said:
Frankly, in the same way Beckham did quite a lot further along in his career, Ronaldo will in the short term, and a hell of a lot more in the long term, provide a lot of money with regards to advertising money, endorsements and world fan base appeal. Banks aren't stupid a £60million fee, with a couple million a year in interest will see them get £100mil or more back in return. A couple of banks might be stupid enough to not go for it, but plenty of banks will see it as a fantastic return and very very low risk. Frankly the Spanish, and Madrid government constantly bail out Real Madrid, as it makes them loads of money themselves in tourism revenue, tax from the club being run itself, tax on the gate reciepts, so Madrid would never ever let Real Madrid fold. Its an almost risk free profit in the tens of millions.

In other words, the banks aren't the problems, its the board, the proposal, the plan or that they aren't sure they can keep him for that long and if/when they sold him could get the same money back. Though frankly, people might be thinking he'll bounce everywhere, but Real Madrid is his boyhood team he watched all his life, people don't often leave those types of clubs(at least while they are still wanted).

Blatter, and Platini are complete morons, though they do have a relatively good reason for slight anti English feelings as Man U and mostly Chelsea are ruining the transfer market with ridiculously expensive player buying. Real Madrid did pay a lot of money for players, but while 47million for Zidane, pretty much unquestioned as the worlds best player at the time, and even now Ronaldo for 60mil as most people think he's the best, they wouldn't pay £22 million for a Shaun Wright Phillips, its chelsea buying lots of incredibly not fantastic players, for ridiculous amounts that have massively pushed up prices, and its English league wages that are pushing up wages everywhere. SO there is some reason to have an anti English club management vibe going on. Real madrids one ludicrous transfer every couple years hasn't done anywhere near the damage Chelsea did, or English wages have done to football in the last few years.
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Whilst I kind of agree with you Real Madrid are not supported financially by any Spanish or Madrid government. I think you should get your facts right.
 
Ezyryder said:
Whilst I kind of agree with you Real Madrid are not supported financially by any Spanish or Madrid government. I think you should get your facts right.
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The Spanish king has stepped in to cancel debts in the past, eg the training ground they had built.
 
platypus said:
The Spanish king has stepped in to cancel debts in the past, eg the training ground they had built.
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Prove it. Those are lies, unless you can prove it from reliable sources. The King has nothing to do with the training grounds. In Spain, Real Madrid made a lot of money of selling their training grounds on the center of Madrid to private firms to build some skyscrapers (those are there today).
 
drunkenmaster said:
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Do you see foreign clubs giving their players to EPL teams on the cheap?

No I didnt think so

Surely this is just as much reason why we have to pay high wages (not only because of similar players being bought for huge fees and agreeing large wages) but also because of their own high transfer costs indicating their own worth

Im not saying its right but its not JUST EPL club to EPL club where fees are high (if any reason, these kind of transfers are defendable as the selling club doesnt want to sell to a direct competitor in the same league)

Its just as bad when Derby last year where paying 40k a week to awful players JUST BECAUSE they where in the EPL (Savage for one)

Players / Agents see the high fees being paid to the clubs for TV rights etc and expect high wages for their clients, even if they are average to carp

What Blatter has said is ridiculous - it has nothing at all to do with him and if anything he should be defending the club after all the player signed a new long contract 12 months ago
 
Ezyryder said:
Prove it. Those are lies, unless you can prove it from reliable sources. The King has nothing to do with the training grounds. In Spain, Real Madrid made a lot of money of selling their training grounds on the center of Madrid to private firms to build some skyscrapers (those are there today).
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Beginning with the reign of Florentino Pérez in 2000, Real Madrid transformed itself from a Great club in History of football team to a money-making machine. However the method of this transformation came under scrutiny form the European Commission and the Spanish Government after an examination into a property deal reported to have netted Real Madrid €480m. The club's sale of its training grounds to the City of Madrid in 2001 wiped out its debts and paved the way for the club to continue to buy the world's most expensive players such as Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldo and David Beckham. The City of Madrid had re-zoned the training grounds for development, a process which in turn increased its value, and then bought the site. The criticisms claim tha the City of Madrid corruptly overpaid for the property to assist in turning around the clubs financial fortunes.

The sale of the training ground to the Madrid city council and regional government for office buildings cleared Real Madrid's huge debts of €270m and enabled the club to embark upon an unprecedented spending spree which brought big-name players to the club. Moreover, the money realised was ploughed into a state-of-the-art training complex on the city's outskirts.
 
NokkonWud said:
Can't stand these guys. It's phenomenal the state of which the game is run. Not only do we have Platini and Blatter, two blatently racist men against the English, but then the next two International footballing events are in two of the worlds most dangerous countries, South Africa and Poland.
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I don't know where you come up with the idea that Poland is one of the world's most dangerous countries.

There are more murders in the US, World Cup '94 seemed OK, and in the UK, Euro 96 wasn't a problem.
 
As I said, bring me official articles, there can be critics but the fact is that the training grounds were worth that much money!
 
Ezyryder said:
As I said, bring me official articles, there can be critics but the fact is that the training grounds were worth that much money!
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Fact that land had to be rezoned before it was sold stinks a bit - but to be fair its well known that RM has been financed like this for a while
 
Ezyryder said:
As I said, bring me official articles, there can be critics but the fact is that the training grounds were worth that much money!
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What constitutes an official article? I doubt you would accept a newspaper article but I'm sure all the proper sources out there are in Spanish.
 
FrankJH said:
Fact that land had to be rezoned before it was sold stinks a bit - but to be fair its well known that RM has been financed like this for a while
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That's just not true, the land was sold before it was rezoned!

LOL, I can read the sources in Spanish and beleive me there are none apart from sport.es and elmundodeportivo.es that will tell you that, then again they are Catalunyan newspapers.
 
now Ezyryder, I'm not into real estate and I don't know quite how big Madrid's former training ground used to be. But don't you think €480m sounds - let just say - alittle high for what probably amounts to around 1km^2 of land? Even by our own over inflated prices?
 
Ezyryder said:
That's just not true, the land was sold before it was rezoned!
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Prove it. These are lies unless you can link to reliable articles.

There's plenty around about the controversy at the time when Perez managed to get the City council to rezone the land La Cuidad Deportiva was built on. And it was rezoned before selling, because that gave the land the required value Real needed for selling. Of course theres no concrete proof or articles, or they'd have ended up in jail.
 
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Visionary said:
I don't know where you come up with the idea that Poland is one of the world's most dangerous countries.
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The country itself is not violent, however football hooliganism is rife and VERY violent. If you'd seen a Polish football match you'd see what I mean. They fill every match with riot police and it's quite an insane thing to see.
 
Blatter and Platini will carry on knocking English football because our FA are weak. If they criticised other countries football they would be told to shut it by the relevant FAs whereas ours just says and does nothing and does not back its own clubs.
 
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