Thinking of shooting for 600BHP........
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[TW]Fox;12077385 said:
Indeed. Why would you need any more?
In fact, why would you need more than two?*
* - slightly wild cam on that one....but only slightly.
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Yeah, you apparently missed the thread. He swapped his CSL with the guy who bought his 'stang.
Forgot to say Gibbo - you really ought to shoot for 600 hp. Somtimes, 'because you can' is the best reason in the world
Thing is though will PS be able to dyno it? I seem to remember standing by the PC last time with it flashing "TOO MUCH POWER!" on the screen and you nearly out running the runners 
Oh yeh, just do it, because you know you will
Oh yeh, just do it, because you know you will
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Yes m8!
The engine design is very basic, but Ford have won a lot of rewards or it comes highly ranked. Fact you can double its output to 600BHP and still pull 25MPG is rather impressive.
Does it run that mpg offboost on 25% throttle or something like that
What gear is it safe to use without it spinning the wheels, third?
I thought you'd sold this car off
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who gives a stuff when it means lots of reliable power
I was having this argument with a mate, who is very much a fan of engineering like the Honda VTEC engine, arguing how its much more of an engineering feet and that big american engines are boring because their low tech and achieve low power from high displacements
My counter argument to that is engines are something like breaking a safe. You can use skill and precision and attempt to crack the safe, or alternatively you can just blow the bloody doors off !
Point being the achieve the same aim, so who cares how its achieved
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Well I got the engine too 390BHP N/A myself and that was without cams, people get over 400BHP with cams which is not bad for a 4.6l V8.
The fact I am talking 600BHP reliable from a 4.6l V8 stock motor really aint that bad at all, fair enough its supercharged, but its still damn good going especially considering how cheap these engines are to buy and how cheap the superchargers are. Oh and don't forget over 550lb/ft of torque too.
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Yep had an R34 Skyline for a month on loan, great car, but only great as I could drive the car everyone on its limit without falling of the black stuff in both wet and dry conditions. It kinda took the fun out of driving in some ways even though it was more involving than an Audi RS4 so it was not that bad, but the CSL was more fun and the Mustang is even more fun to drive even if it does mean not been as fast through some of the corners.
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For £700 I'd be ordering without a second thought, if you can make it hit 600+ bhp that will be insane and fair play to the bragging rights.
/me so wants a supercharger.
/me so wants a supercharger.
Do it now! You have to love American cars really. As basic as they may be, you can transform them for very little money. An extra 60BHP - 70BHP for $1400 is a bargain if you ask me.
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Remember an extra 200BHP only cost $5000 !!! Now thats value for money. Just buy a supercharger!
TBH it's pefectly feasable to get a half-decent tune over e-mail with enough data logging using a wideband lambda, it's not really much different to live mapping on the road, just not in real-time. I guess it takes a lot of e-mailing datalogs and updated maps back and forth, but it's perfectly feasable (Andy Forrest did an Ecutec mapping by e-mail service for scoobies IIRC).
I guess it works like this:
- Tuner sends Gibbo a base map estimating fuelling etc based on the specs of the car.
- Gibbo loads map onto ECU, does some runs and starts datalogging.
- Gibbo sends datalogs to tuner, who then tweaks the map based on the datalogs, then sends updated map to Gibbo.
- Rinse and repeat.
You could probably get fuelling pretty much spot-on doing it like that, ignition timing is another matter though, I guess the tuner would just have to keep it on the safe side of what they know from other cars with similar specs.
You wouldn't get the absolute best result WRT ultimate power/torque without dyno tuning though.
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Does it run that mpg offboost on 25% throttle or something like that
What gear is it safe to use without it spinning the wheels, third?
I thought you'd sold this car off
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Get 18-20MPG around town if you keep revs below 2000rpm which is easy as this car has 400lb/ft torque at 2000rpm. On a run at about 70ish mph the car will return circa 26-28mpg and I generally average 16mpg which involves driving to work and spirited drives.
All gears are fine in the dry, including 1st on smooth road. Sometimes changing from 1st-2nd can kick the rear end out if going for it.
I did sell it, missed it and so got it back.
exactly. not many cars can gain 50 ponies for such little money, and yours is already at a high output
