Father branded a 'pervert' - for photographing his own children in public park

[mrk]

Mr Crutchley - who had only photographed his own children - was so enraged that he fetched two policemen to confirm he had done nothing wrong.

He said today: 'What is the world coming to when anybody seen with a camera is assumed to be doing things that they should not? 'This parental paranoia is getting completely out of hand. I was so shocked.

'One of the police officers told me that it was just the way society is these days. He agreed with me that it was madness.'

The 39-year-old rubber consultant and father-of-three from Reedswood, Walsall, was with wife Tracey at the Wolverhampton Show when their sons asked to go on an inflatable slide.

He said: 'I started taking photographs of them having a good time. Moments later the woman running the slide told me to stop.

'She told me I could not take pictures of other people's children. I explained that I was only interested in taking photographs of my own children and pointed out that this was taking place in a public park.

'I then showed her the photos I had taken to prove my point.

'Then another woman joined in and said her child was also on the slide and did not want me taking pictures of the youngster. I repeated that the only people being photographed were my own children.

'She then said I could be taking pictures of just any child to put on the internet and called me a pervert.

'The incident took the gloss off the day and left a nasty taste in the mouth.'

He added: 'The two police officers confirmed that I had been perfectly within my rights to take photographs of my own children in the park.'

Mrs Crutchley, 37, a teaching support assistant and qualified nursery nurse said: 'I was annoyed, extremely upset and embarrassed.

'It is very sad when every man with a camera enjoying a Sunday afternoon out in the park with his children is automatically assumed to be a pervert.

'What makes it even more ridiculous is that both my husband and I had police checks last year because I was working as a child minder from our home for a period of time.'

Wolverhampton councillor Malcolm Gwinnett, whose daughter Tracey was running the ride, said: 'Our policy is to ask people taking photographs whether they have children on the slide. If they do, then that is fine. But on this occasion another customer took exception to what the man was doing and an argument developed between those two people that continued without any further involvement from staff on the slide.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...vert--photographing-children-public-park.html

It's what happens when you use a Nikon TBH


Na just joking, it is quite sad really that people lack some common sense today and cannot see the through their own misunderstandings.

 

[Abz]

we live in a time of fear

 

[Mr Jones]

we live in a time of fear

And with the access of Internet being so public, I'm not surprised so many get paranoid about it. I often take what Daily Mail says with a pinch of salt but having personally experiencing comments first hand, it does put a downer on photography in public.

I was happily snapping ducks and birds in a public pond the other week with my Sigma 70-300. Because it looked "massive" and I was sitting on the bench zooming in and out at some seagulls across the pond, a lady from the other end had to come over and say if I was "taking pictures of her sun bathing" - she was no where near where my lens were pointing. She also looked pretty ******.

"Had" to let her inspect my camera to clear my innocence.

She said only then said "ok, fine, just stop shooting that way" and walked off.

She was no way hot anyway, those ducks and goose where more interesting that her laying on some public park showing her bits, IN PUBLIC. (I say bits, but nothing naked, a sarong and bikini) Meh! If you dare to wear something like that in public then you're basically parading yourself anyway!

That's one big reason why I don't do a lot of candid snaps of public doing their natural poses, one way or another, someone will come around and bite me in the eye for snapping them.

 

[domthecondom]

=/ did he look like a perv?

I got told to stop taking pics off a women i wasn't even shooting at, only cos i was at 135mm zoom lol...and she though im taking pics of her skit :|

people now a days

 

[mrk]

And with the access of Internet being so public, I'm not surprised so many get paranoid about it. I often take what Daily Mail says with a pinch of salt but having personally experiencing comments first hand, it does put a downer on photography in public.

I was happily snapping ducks and birds in a public pond the other week with my Sigma 70-300. Because it looked "massive" and I was sitting on the bench zooming in and out at some seagulls across the pond, a lady from the other end had to come over and say if I was "taking pictures of her sun bathing" - she was no where near where my lens were pointing. She also looked pretty ******.

"Had" to let her inspect my camera to clear my innocence.

She said only then said "ok, fine, just stop shooting that way" and walked off.

She was no way hot anyway, those ducks and goose where more interesting that her laying on some public park showing her bits, IN PUBLIC. (I say bits, but nothing naked, a sarong and bikini) Meh! If you dare to wear something like that in public then you're basically parading yourself anyway!

That's one big reason why I don't do a lot of candid snaps of public doing their natural poses, one way or another, someone will come around and bite me in the eye for snapping them.

She had no right to come over and ask you such a question let alone inspect your photos. If she doesn't want to be seen sun bathing then she should sunbath in private property. She can whine all she wants or call whoever but legally you were sound as a pound!

 

[Mr Jones]

She had no right to come over and ask you such a question let alone inspect your photos. If she doesn't want to be seen sun bathing then she should sunbath in private property. She can whine all she wants or call whoever but legally you were sound as a pound!

Yea, but that's the trouble tho... because I'm a male with a camera and she's a Female - she has the "upper hand" in terms of joe public's point of view unless I prove myself innocent.

It's very hard to do people photography in public.

 

[33L]

it really annoys me as i like to take the camera about and take pics and in a somewhat crowded enviroment i dont like to take pics anymore for fear of being labelled a pervert or getting stop again by police!

 

[mrk]

The police seem to be more aware now ever since the last few article printed in newspapers about making the law more aware of Photography in public places, it's more the single minded public that need to get the picture (kekkles!) now so if you're confronted by some hambeast just ask her to get the police so they can shut her up!

 

[craptakular]

I think the woman running the slide and busy-body woman should have been executed on the spot.

Im not joking, ah if I was King.........

 

[Mr Jones]

Anyone found any decent site / page where it enlist a comprehensive guides/laws to UK public photography?

I think all photographers should carry an A4 printed version of such a handy page when the needs to argue/defend yourself. The closes I've found is this: http://www.sirimo.co.uk/ukpr.php - it is printed corret in August 2004 and some things might have changed.

 

[33L]

i remember seeing a post here on the phtographers rights being amended to give authorities more stop and search powers. However the public needs to be educated.

 

[Abz]

And with the access of Internet being so public, I'm not surprised so many get paranoid about it. I often take what Daily Mail says with a pinch of salt but having personally experiencing comments first hand, it does put a downer on photography in public.

I was happily snapping ducks and birds in a public pond the other week with my Sigma 70-300. Because it looked "massive" and I was sitting on the bench zooming in and out at some seagulls across the pond, a lady from the other end had to come over and say if I was "taking pictures of her sun bathing" - she was no where near where my lens were pointing. She also looked pretty ******.

"Had" to let her inspect my camera to clear my innocence.

She said only then said "ok, fine, just stop shooting that way" and walked off.

She was no way hot anyway, those ducks and goose where more interesting that her laying on some public park showing her bits, IN PUBLIC. (I say bits, but nothing naked, a sarong and bikini) Meh! If you dare to wear something like that in public then you're basically parading yourself anyway!

That's one big reason why I don't do a lot of candid snaps of public doing their natural poses, one way or another, someone will come around and bite me in the eye for snapping them.

lol no way...

should have told her off.

tel her the ducks look beter than her fat *ss and tell her u put me off put some cloths on u old hag

 

[Mr Jones]

lol no way...

should have told her off.

tel her the ducks look beter than her fat *ss and tell her u put me off put some cloths on u old hag

I could do that or I could emerge the better person when she huffed off after noticing all my photos were seagulls, ducks, goose, a heron and a couple of pond weed instead of her. She should kinda get the message.

I've been reading that handy Photographer's Rights in the UK I've linked above and never really realised I can take photos of people in public, provided they're not recognisable (if I want for commercial use) - and also, people in public have no rights to privacy! (that's why the UK have so many CCTVs...)

 

[mrk]

I could do that or I could emerge the better person when she huffed off after noticing all my photos were seagulls, ducks, goose, a heron and a couple of pond weed instead of her. She should kinda get the message.

I've been reading that handy Photographer's Rights in the UK I've linked above and never really realised I can take photos of people in public, provided they're not recognisable (if I want for commercial use) - and also, people in public have no rights to privacy! (that's why the UK have so many CCTVs...)

Indeed which is why i order to use CCTV footage as evidence in a public place etc a sign must notify people that CCTV is being used otherwise it's useless evidence! Privacy goes out the window when you're in a public place which is why London City centre is jam packed with people wlaking around with SLR cameras aimed in all directions taking photographs and you can walk around even at midnight with a dslr knowing that hardly anyone will bother you!

 

[Johnny|lucidcomposure]

what a complete a total joke. whoever introduced the rule was bonkers but its the people who follow it who are more disturbed.

 

[V-Spec]

My friend got accused of being responsible for killing Diana, by dog walkers whilst photographing Swans in the morning mist at Clumber Park.

"People like you killed her, you should be ashamed"


I mean, even *if* he snapped someone elses kid whilst his own kids were playing, by accident?? what difference does it make.. What possible harm can come from it??

 

[mrk]

My friend got accused of being responsible for killing Diana, by dog walkers whilst photographing Swans in the morning mist at Clumber Park.

"People like you killed her, you should be ashamed"


I mean, even *if* he snapped someone elses kid whilst his own kids were playing, by accident?? what difference does it make.. What possible harm can come from it??

Zero harm could come of it, it's just people in the general public are too damn dumb to know any different.

Remember these are the types of people who complain when they see something they don't approve of in TV and people who think their method of living and accepting is the right way.

Media Bandwagon Jumpers!

It's people like us who do know the differences though that are the ones who need to educate the younger people of today so tomorrow can be more bearable because today's dumb adults are only going to be around for one era (not to mean offence when saying that of course!)

 

[Ezyryder]

I could do that or I could emerge the better person when she huffed off after noticing all my photos were seagulls, ducks, goose, a heron and a couple of pond weed instead of her. She should kinda get the message.

I've been reading that handy Photographer's Rights in the UK I've linked above and never really realised I can take photos of people in public, provided they're not recognisable (if I want for commercial use) - and also, people in public have no rights to privacy! (that's why the UK have so many CCTVs...)

You should have said that you just were making pictures of the only beautiful things you could see

 

[Raymond Lin]

I would've told them to sue me, if they don't like it, leave. I have as much right as anyone to be there.

 

[badbob]

Zero harm could come of it, it's just people in the general public are too damn dumb to know any different.

Remember these are the types of people who complain when they see something they don't approve of in TV and people who think their method of living and accepting is the right way.

Media Bandwagon Jumpers!

It's people like us who do know the differences though that are the ones who need to educate the younger people of today so tomorrow can be more bearable because today's dumb adults are only going to be around for one era (not to mean offence when saying that of course!)

You're obviously a terrorist paedophile