Temps ok? and Ok to Prime Overnight?

SS-89 · 18 Jul 2008 at 00:00

Currently have my [email protected] with 1.41v in bios (equates to 1.38 idle in windows and 1.354 at load as you can see from the pic) Seems to top out at 70 degrees load. Are those temps ok as the room ambient temp is quite high atm? Also would it be safe for me to head to bed and leave prime running overnight?

dr. sarf · 18 Jul 2008 at 00:03

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Cob · 18 Jul 2008 at 00:10

Yeah that's grand.

SS-89 · 18 Jul 2008 at 00:11

Cob said:
Yeah that's grand.

So I take it from that temps are ok

and I can Prime overnight without fear of killing my chip? Also have I pushed too much voltage through it?

Cob · 18 Jul 2008 at 00:13

Temps and volts are fine for the chip.

SS-89 · 18 Jul 2008 at 00:15

Cob said:
Temps and volts are fine for the chip.

ok that was after 12mins of prime would the temps rise above that or have they plateaud at 70? again never really primed so don't want to come in the morning and find it hit the tjunction and killed the chip

Idling at 41 on both cores btw.

goujon945 · 18 Jul 2008 at 00:20

Temps are maybe a tad high for comfort but realistically how often is yr cpu gonna be at 100% load other than testing. Prime wont run till yr cpu dies in y experience yr pc will shut down long before there is a chance of your cpu dying

SS-89 · 18 Jul 2008 at 00:24

Ok cool, well temps are slightly high because I went for silence over function

4 sharkoon 1000's and the scythe on my cpu cooler seems to max out at 1223rpm too

Weird thing is the cpu was prime stable for 2 hours at 3.8 with only 1.29volts so seems to need a lot more just for 200mhz.

goujon945 · 18 Jul 2008 at 00:33

If your worried about temps you could always drop down a little, don't think you would notice 200mhz in real world performance tbh. On a side note, are you happy with the sharkoons? Bin thinking about getting a couple for my cheapo i-cute case, don't worry getting a new case soon!

dr. sarf · 18 Jul 2008 at 00:36

SS-89 said:
So I take it from that temps are ok and I can Prime overnight without fear of killing my chip?

Or burning down your house.

Bit toasty for my liking for a 45nm chip, get it under water.

SS-89 · 18 Jul 2008 at 00:37

Goujon I'm Very happy, very very quiet and I'm glad I made the investment.

Sarf can't afford a W/c setup atm

so I guess I'll stick it back down to 3.8 if the temps are too much for a 45nm.

For reference at 3.8 with 1.29v (windows idle 1.27 at load) it idles at 41 degrees and tops out at 62 on both cores.

goujon945 · 18 Jul 2008 at 01:10

I may have to invest in a couple then, it will have to be when i get my new case tho cos i jus checked and my poo case only has 92mm mounts! If it was my cpu i would be a lot happier with 62 than 70! But you say the ambient temp is high, if it is unusually high try again later for 4ghz, if not then 3.8ghz is still a fast cpu.

Corasik · 18 Jul 2008 at 02:05

70's fairly high, but if its stable, and it doesnt throttle its fine. Coretemp/Tat/etc are all well and good, but the most important number is often not displayed. The delta. As long as the delta doesnt reach 0, then the chips not at its maximum temperature. At 70 degrees you could have anywhere between 15 and 35 degrees "spare" before you hit the throttle point, depending on the max tjunct of the CPU.

Ok, not modern 45nm tech, but oldschool 80486! on a small passive heatsink at 33mhz, and it used to hit almost 100 degrees as fairly "normal" temperature. Geforce 6800's didnt throttle until 120 degrees!. Chips can get pretty hot before they get damaged, and all Intel chips since P3 have had the ability to shutdown once the core gets too hot, P4 and Core Duo's throttle more gracefully.

Of course overclocking does reduce the lifespan of a processor, and so does increased heat. But the odds are the chip will be obsolete before it breaks. Overclockers dont seem to stick with 1 processor for very long... its out with the old and in with something newer long before the chips are fried.

SS-89 · 18 Jul 2008 at 09:20

I've heard the 45nm can suffer degredation. Also the Tcase recommended temp is 72 degrees which is the max temp to run at for a sustained period of time. Is that a seperate reading? if not although I may never max out both cores and whilst gaming at 4.0 it topped out at around 62 it seems I'm too close to the threshhold.

Cob · 18 Jul 2008 at 13:08

Did you run it over-night?

SS-89 · 18 Jul 2008 at 17:18

I didn't I was put off by the nay-sayers in the thread about whether 70 was a bit too high

. Stuck with 3.8 for now unless somebody with experience says otherwise.

dr. sarf · 18 Jul 2008 at 21:09

SS-89 said:
I didn't I was put off by the nay-sayers in the thread about whether 70 was a bit too high . Stuck with 3.8 for now unless somebody with experience says otherwise.

I think it'd probably be fine over night, but personally I wouldn't want to run it like that 24/7. It depends what you use you PC for. Afterall there's nothing that stresses a CPU like Prime so it shouldn't ever really get that hot unless you're doing something seriously heavy.

We tend not to go over 1.35v in the BIOS on 45nm chips, unless under a decent WC setup, 'cos they can cook long term.

SS-89 · 18 Jul 2008 at 22:03

I'll stick to 3.8 it idles nicely at 40 and prime loads at 62. Also I doubt I'll see any real benefit from the extra 200mhz anyway

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dr. sarf · 18 Jul 2008 at 22:09

SS-89 said:
I'll stick to 3.8 it idles nicely at 40 and prime loads at 62. Also I doubt I'll see any real benefit from the extra 200mhz anyway .

No, probably only in your E-Penis.

SS-89 · 18 Jul 2008 at 22:14

Hehe